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Jane Langford lookup please
« on: Friday 28 March 08 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have on a 41 census A William Baker married to a Jane ?- at the time living holborn middlx
trying to find if it is Jane Langford as found a Marriage between them about the right time..On census states Jane birth place Cambridgeshire..They had a son in 1844 and children before then.

However on another census still living in London but states birth place as Blackwater Hampshire.. Huh Huh

Could I have the wrong Jane all together? maybe.. Tongue
If anyone can shed some light on this scenario would be much appreciated as Can't find A Jane Langford on her own or with her family anywhere..
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Re: Jane Langford lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 March 08 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Which census says her birth place was Cambs? 1841 only states if born in county.

If you give more details we might be able to help - eg full details of 1841 and other censuses where you have found the family, names of children etc

The simplest means of confirming her maiden name is to buy the birth cert of one of their children, if their births were registered

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Jane Langford lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 March 08 12:31 GMT (UK) »
 CENSUS ON ORIGINS ( i think)
GRAYS INN PASSAGE ST ANDREWS HOLBORN
WILLIAM TOBACCONIST B CKERKENWELL
JANE                               
CHILDREN MARY AND JANIE

61 was Ancestry
WILLIAM
JANE       B BLACKWATER HAMP
MARY JANE
ELIZA
GEO CHAZ
ALICE
HELEN

61 origins more or less same info but
Jane born Cambridgeshire??

They also had a son william F Baker..my Family Great Grandfather born 1844
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Re: Jane Langford lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 March 08 13:45 GMT (UK) »
I think you need to complete the census details and you will answer your own question!

Doesn't matter whose site you look at the census image on, unless you are looking at the index when errors creep in.

In 1851
Liberty of The Rolls, St Clement Danes
William Baker head marr 53 Collector steam boat co b Clerkenwell
Jane Baker wife 44 b Hampshire Blackwater (I can understand how it might have been transcribed as Cambridgeshire)
William Baker son 17 app carpenter b Holborn
Mary Ann Baker dau 23 fancy stationer b Holborn
Jane Eliza Baker dau 21 fancy stationer b Holborn
Elizabeth Sarah Baker dau 19 fancy stationer b Holborn
George Charles Baker son 13 scholar b Westminster
Alice Martha Baker dau 7 b City
Helen Baker dau 3 b City

The 1841 family you mention
William Baker 35 tobacconist
Jane Baker 25?
Mary Baker 3
Janie Baker 1
All born in Middlesex

In 1851
119 Fetter Lane, St Dunstan in the West, London
William Baker head marr 43 Money taker to steam boats b Clerkenwell
Jane Baker wife 33  b Hampshire
Louisa Baker dau 14 b St Clements
Mary Ann Baker dau 13 b St Clements
Jane Baker dau 11 b St Andrews Holborn
William Baker son 7 b St Andrews Holborn
George Baker son 3 b St Andrews Holborn

1841 looks as though it's the same family. But the presence of Louisa age 14 in 1851 complicates matters as it makes a Dec 1838 marriage in Richmond Surrey more unlikely. But we can speculate until the cows come home. It will take the birth cert of one of the children to prove it one way or the other.


Births/baptisms of most of the children are on the IGI

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Jane Langford lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 March 08 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Can you order  birth cert from IGI? if so how? Will still only give the Fathers name though surely?
I have only ever sent for certs on camdex before, but that only covers Cambridge..Very new to this.. Sad
Thanks for all your help thus far though..
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Re: Jane Langford lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 March 08 16:21 GMT (UK) »
The IGI takes it's data from parish register entries, which sometimes include the birth date, and NO you can't order anything from the IGI.

You need to look up the birth on http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl, make a note of the details, then order the certificate from the GRO, which can be done online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/#0

A birth certificate has always given the mother's maiden name. It's a marriage cert that only gives the fathers' names

See http://www.thosedixons.net/certificates/indexbmd.html  for a good guide to what you find on the various certificates

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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