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Lindyloowho
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1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« on: Friday 28 March 08 20:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi:

I'm looking for Thomas Stephen (sometimes just known as Stephen) ROSEBERRY in the 1841 census of Sunderland.  He was born 1814 in Sunderland, occupation - joiner, with wife Dorothy b 1817.
They married in Sunderland in 1838.

If anyone could find them in other census that would be wonderful Grin

I do have them in 1881.

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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:24 GMT (UK) »

1841
HO107 310/6 fol 17 p 28

Thomas Roseberry 27 joiner
Dorothy 23
Mathew 2
Ann 1mth
Ann Taylor 50
all born in county
Ballas? Hills Bishopwearmouth Sunderland
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:28 GMT (UK) »

1851
HO107/2395/164/34

Stephen Roseberry 30 
Dorothy Roseberry 29 
Charles Roseberry 11 
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:30 GMT (UK) »

1851 HO107/2395 fol.414 p.36
2 Gerald St, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland
ROSEBERRY
Thos      head m 37 Joiner Bp. Wearmouth
Dorothy wife  m 33            Houghton le Spring
Matthew son     12 Scholar  Bishop Wearmouth
Mary       dau       6    "               "
Thomas  son       2                     "

Barbara

ps 1841 is Ballast Hills
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:31 GMT (UK) »

1861
RG9/3769/25/44

Stephen 40 
Dorothy 40 
Thomas 5 
Stephen 3 
William 9 Mths
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:36 GMT (UK) »

1861
RG9 3768 fol 20 p 33

Thomas 47 joiner b Bishopwearmouth
Dorothy 43 wife b ditto
Matthew 22 son joiner
Thomas 12 scholar
Dorothy 10 dau b ditto
Jane 8 dau b ditto
William 5 son b ditto
Peter 1 son b ditto
Mount Pleasant B/wearmouth
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:36 GMT (UK) »

Which one is he then, Linda?
Can you give children's names before we keep on posting the wrong one?
Huh
Mike, you haven't given any occupation details, or addresses, was Stephen also a joiner?

Barbara  Smiley
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:43 GMT (UK) »

Yours looks the closest, Barbara, being a joiner b.1814  Smiley

Strange coincidence of wife's names though.

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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:43 GMT (UK) »

Yes, I see Stephen was a mason

1871 RG10/5001 fol.47 p.17
11 Ravensworth St, Bishop Wearmouth
ROSEBERRY
Thomas head m 57 Ship Joiner
Dorothy wife  m 53 
Thomas son   u  32 Iron Ship Plater
Dorothy dau   u  30
William S son      15 Ship Joiner
James P    "         11 Scholar
John G.     "           8     "
all born Sunderland

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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »

Sorry. Having trouble posting this evening . . . and trying to do too many things at once  Roll Eyes

Stephen was also a journeyman bricklayer in 1851.

Your Thomas is definitely nearest Linda's original post. I wonder if they were cousins?

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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 March 08 20:58 GMT (UK) »

1891 RG12/4129  Folio 22  Page 38
Grocers Shop, 49 Hedley St, Bishop Wearmouth

Thomas ROSEBERRY head m 77 Living on his own means Sunderland
Dorothy        "          wife m 73                            Durham Rainton
William S       "          son s 35 Joiner                     "     Sunderland
James P        "            "    s 31 Coffee Tavern Manager   "
James PARKINSON grandson s 20 Shipwrights Apprentice   "
Thomas       "               "           15 Ship Caulkers   "              "
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 March 08 22:52 GMT (UK) »

Arrgh!!!

What I know is Thomas Roseberry joiner, son of Peter Roseberry mason and Mary Small, married Dorothy Lonsdale in 1838 - her father was William, both of full age.  This is definitely "my Thomas" - Peter was the brother of my ggg grandfather Thomas.

I have baptisms for parents Stephen and Dorothy Roseberry of Mary Jane 1841, Jane Ann 1843, Mary 1845, Mary 1847, William Stephen 1849 and Harriet Jane August 1851.

The one I found in 1881 matched the one you found in 1891. 1881 shows him as Thomas S. - so I "presumed" him to be Thomas Stephen.

I know Thomas's grandfather was called Matthew - daughter Mary age 6 in 1851 fits with the baptism above, so I'm leaning towards Barbara's find - what do you both think Huh

We have a large family of Roseberry's in the area - all masons or joiner, so they are in all likelihood related.

Many thanks, Linda
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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 March 08 23:16 GMT (UK) »

I'm looking for Thomas Stephen (sometimes just known as Stephen) ROSEBERRY

When was he just known as Stephen?

I think the Thomas census will be the right ones, do you know any names of his siblings from family information to confirm this?

The Stephen Mike found could be a brother or as he suggested, a cousin

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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 March 08 23:41 GMT (UK) »

Linda, I thought this was familiar, I and others already found this 1841/51 census information for you on this thread 2 weeks ago

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,292396.0.html
"I'm looking for Thomas ROSEBERRY b 1814, joiner and wife Dorothy b 1817 in the 1841 census in Sunderland. Should have son Matthew age 2."


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Re: 1841 census - ROSEBERRY
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 March 08 22:33 GMT (UK) »

Barbara, Mike:

I am deeply sorry and extremely embarrassed! Embarrassed  I thought I had found this part of my tree once, but couldn't find any notes and couldn't find it on Rootschat.

Only in the last few days had I found the baptism of Thomas s.o. Peter and that got me going again.

I apologise for the extra/double time and effort you both put forth and will make sure in future I am more thorough with keeping my notes.

I feel extremely foolish!  Please forgive me.

Linda
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