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Cannot find person on 1841 census
« on: Saturday 29 March 08 15:36 GMT (UK) »
I have been  looking for my GGGrandfather on the 1841 census.  He is on all the others which I have retained for their information, and details of his wife and Family

His name is Edmond Melbourn/Melbourne he was born 1809 according to the 1851 census in Great Wilbraham Cambridgeshire and died 1890.

I have a hunch that he was married twice/three times, but I can find no trace of him or his family in 1841  Roll Eyes

Any help would be gratefully received.

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 March 08 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Is this him?

HO107/72/8  Folio 4 Page 3

Ancestry has him as born in 1831 but age is given as 30. Wink
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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 March 08 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Edmund Melbourn age 30 is on the CFHS 1841 census at Gt Wilbraham HO107/72/8 folio 4b

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/1841Index/index.html

on same ref are
Edmund 75
George 50
Elizabeth 30
Elizabeth jun 10
Maryanne 8
John 5
William 3

Rosie

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MARSHALL.  Trumpington area,  Cambridgeshire
NEAVES.      Cambridgeshire
MARSH         Ringwould/Walmer, Kent

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi bearkat and Rosie,

I know that I am under the weather at the moment, but I still cannot find him!

What am I doing wrong and do you have to belong the the Cams Soc, before they give with the info?

I have done loads of these, never had this problem before!

Frustrated Rabbit B  Huh
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Rabbit B he is definitely there, 'cos I found him as well!

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear me I forgot to THANK YOU BOTH

So sorry, hope that I will be forgiven!

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Search Edmund Milbourn Jun.   Grin

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:29 GMT (UK) »
I found him by just searching for Edmund MELBOURNE with soundex on Ancestry.

He is transcribed as Edmund MILBOURN.
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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Rabbit,

no, you don't have to be a member of CFHS to search their indexes  Grin 

Hope you are feeling better soon though if its wet and gloomy like it is here I can't blame you for feeling under the weather.

Rosie
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: bearkat on Saturday 29 March 08 16:29 GMT (UK)
I found him by just searching for Edmund MELBOURNE with soundex on Ancestry.

He is transcribed as Edmund MILBOURN.

Hi lovely people,

You will not believe that I tried this, but I think that I was looking for Edmond, then I tried every other combination I could think of including wild cards!

I will now try again!

Rosie thank you for that, I have had this awful bug and a cold on top for the last two weeks so my head feels like an explosion!  Never mind eh!

Now Jen B what is Edmund jnr Birthdate? Just so that I get it right this time.  The other thing is that I think that this family can be traced back to the ark!  They did not move very far.

Would anyone like to have a go? [My Gramp was so proud of his roots in Cambridgeshire]  I have never been there sadly.

I would be so grateful for any other info, thanks to everyone for having come this far

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Edmund Milbourn Jun is aged 30, Edmund Milbourn 75 (see rosie99 post above)

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 March 08 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Oh thank you all so much, I have now got all the census detail for the Melbourn clan.

I am very curious to know who is George?  Is there any way of finding out? Or can I assume that he is Edmund's Son/Brother?

The other thing I would never have found alone, [My eyes aren't as good as they were you see] was the ages because they were not the same on the front bit as they are on the original document, on Ancestry. 

Looks as if I have Edmund or George, Fathered Edmund, Fathered Pearce [Percy] who Fathered William my Grandfather who was a wonderful man.

Thank you all so very much, I am so very grateful for your help!  All of you.

Last question have any of you any idea if the parish registers for that area are on line?  I would like to confirm the ID of George in relation to Edmond Jnr father of Pearce.

I will have another go at the website that you gave me Rosie, but when I looked before supper, I had no luck with any of them!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 March 08 14:57 BST (UK) »
These look like Edmunds marriages
Extracted Record off IGI

Edmund Melbourne to Elizabeth Nunn on 27th March 1831 Great Wilbraham

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Qtr Dec 1856
Chesterton(This covers the areas of Great Wilbraham and Horningsea where they are in 1851/61)
Edmund Melbourne to either Mary Ann Howlett or Mary Ann Peters.

Edmunds baptism not on Cambs Fhs databases.
You need a look up now In Great Wilbraham Parish Records to see who Edmunds Father is George or Edmund from the 1841 census

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 March 08 15:08 BST (UK) »
Marriage
Pearce Melbourne to Mary Ann Hart in Chesterton Qtr March 1865 Vol 3b Page 1085

British Isles Vital Index 2
Baptisms Horningsea

Father-Pearce Melbourne
Mother-Mary Ann

Benjamin Herbert Melbourne-16th Sept 1866
Nora Elizabeth Melbourne-13th March 1870
William Herbert Melbourne-29th Aug 1875

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 March 08 16:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,
In the parish registers for Gt Wilbraham the marriage details are
Edmund Melbourne   bac  married Elizabeth Nunn sp  botp 27 Mar 1831. Wits William Webb R Stubbing.
There are no baptisms for Edmund in Gt or Lt Wilbraham.

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