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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #15 on: Monday 31 March 08 17:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Rabbit

George born c 1790 appears on the 1851 and 1861 census living on his own but UNmarried. (bn Gt Wilbraham)
Appears to rule that one out!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 March 08 17:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Looking through Gt Shelford parish registers I found the following which maybe of interest
Pearce Melbourne  bap 6 Dec 1813 son of James and Mary Bur 8 Feb 1816
Mary bap 21 Apr 1816
James bap 12 July 1818
Sarah bap  12 July 1818 bur 3 Sept 1822. Mary was bur 1 Nov 1822 age 36

James Melbourn widr m Elizabeth Stallion sp botp 7 Nov 1824 wit John Stallion John Morre
Pearson (probably meant to be Pearce) bap 26 June 1825
Alice bap 12 Nov 1826
Sarah bap 3 Aug 1828 bur 3 Nov 1828
George bap 11 Apr 1830
Henry bap 23 Oct 1831
Charles bap 4 Jan 1835 bur 1 May 1835
Joseph bap 4 Jan 1835

James bur 8 Apr 1863 age 77
Elizabeth bur 18 Feb 1873 age 81.

George was baptised George Mulbourn 1 Feb 1789 son of Edmund Hurry and Elizabeth  Gt Wilbraham.

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 March 08 17:35 BST (UK) »
Nice one Tempsford Grin

I had just been looking at James and family in 1841/51 and thought Shelford PR's were worth a look!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #18 on: Monday 31 March 08 17:58 BST (UK) »
IGI has a baptism for a Charlotte Milbourn 11th September 1791 at Gt Wilbraham parents Edmund Hurry and Elizabeth....perhaps she (Charlotte) was Edmunds mother

Rosie

NO SHE ISN't see later post
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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #19 on: Monday 31 March 08 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Welsh Lady,

Little problem here, I have never heard of Benjamin Herbert Melbourne-16th Sept 1866 Could he have died I wonder?

William Herbert Melbourne-29th Aug 1875 [my Grandfather son of Pearce and Mary Ann was born on 4th July 1875.  I have his birth marriage and death certificate.

Edmund was the Father of Percy/Pearce Melbourn, spelt differently on two of his certificates and Mary Ann Hart, did not know according to the marriage certificate, who her Father was.

Now Tempsford,

The information that you have given me is even more puzzling, because I have the marriage certificate for Pearce and Mary Ann with the year 1865 on but no further date!  I had not noticed that before!

Now I have to dash but this is a puzzle indeed!  Could Edmund have had more than one name, or is James another Family altogether!  I will look at this again after dinner!

This one was supposed to be the easy one!  Ha ha!

Thanks to you all.

One confused, but very grateful to you all

Rabbit B
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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 March 08 19:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Edmund Hurry Mulbourn bac married Elizabeth Cook sp 16 Jan 1786 Gt Wilbraham wits Ann Stubbing Robert Fynn. They had the following children
James bap 6 Apr 1787
Charlotte (twin of James bur 20 may 1787)
George bap 1 Feb 1789
Charlotte bap 11 Sept 1791 bur 22 Apr 1792.

I also found the following burials Pearcy Mulbourn bur 11 Apr 1813 age 20
Elizabeth Melbourn bur 4 Jan 1846 age 40
Edmund Melbourne bur 27 Dec 1846 age 82.

Hope this helps and does not complicate matters further. Grin

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #21 on: Monday 31 March 08 22:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,

Pearce/Percy Melbourn was 21 years old when he married Mary Ann Hart in 1865, so according to me, and this is where I always slip up, that makes him born in 1848 at Gt Wilbraham.  Mary Ann Hart would have been born in 1847 she was 2 years older when they got married. I know nothing about her! He was a Policeman when he married and an ag lab later on in his life.

This couple lived to celebrate their Diamond Wedding [60 years] and it was reported in the local paper Friday 6th November 1925, 'that this interesting Horninsea Couple who are pictured aged 70, 12 years earlier had lived in the  same house for 59 years and the area for 80 years'.

According to this paper they had one Son [my Grampa] and three Daughters.  This fits with what I have known all my life because Grandfather told me about his Sisters.

So what we need to know is the Mother of Pearce/Percy his fathers name is on his marriage lines as Edmund.

So that is the history as I know it!  There must have been another Family in the same village I think, possibly Cousins from the Fathers side of the Family.
Hope that all makes sense!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Pearce Melbourne bap 12 May 1844 son of Edward and Elizabeth. Gt Wilbraham.
Will look later today for any siblings. Do you know where Mary Ann Hart was born, it is quite a common name around that area.
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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 11:46 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rosie99 on Monday 31 March 08 17:58 BST (UK)
IGI has a baptism for a Charlotte Milbourn 11th September 1791 at Gt Wilbraham parents Edmund Hurry and Elizabeth....perhaps she (Charlotte) was Edmunds mother

Rosie

So she isn't the mother as Tempsford has her burial for 1792 - currently that just leaves James or George as a possible parent of Edmund born c1810.

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Rabbit B,
The children of Edmund and Elizabeth married 1831 are
Elizabeth bap 17 July 1831 dau of Edmund
Marianne bap 26 May 1833
John bap 8 May 1836 son of Edwin
William bap 13 Jan 1839 son of Edmund bur 20 Sept 1840
William bap 16 May 1841 son of Edmund jun
Pearce bap 12 May 1844 son of Edward.
As you can see several different spellings for the same person but I still can't find baptism for Edmund jun in Gt or Lt Wilbraham. But I think its safe to say that his father was Edmund or Edward!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 21:55 BST (UK) »
According to CFHS indexes there was an Edmund Milburn parents James and Alice baptised in 1808 at Fen Ditton.
In the same year there is a death for an Alice Melburn (no age given)

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 22:31 BST (UK) »
Quote from: tempsford on Tuesday 01 April 08 09:58 BST (UK)
Hi,
Pearce Melbourne bap 12 May 1844 son of Edward and Elizabeth. Gt Wilbraham.
Will look later today for any siblings. Do you know where Mary Ann Hart was born, it is quite a common name around that area.
Tempsford.

Hi Tempsford,

Do you know if Edward had more than one name? Edmund is the name of Pearce's dad on the marriage certificate.

Have no idea where Mary Ann was born but when I looked her up on ancestry another name with Pearce's came up altogether! I will have another look and get back to you  I think that It might have been Amelia

I will do it tomorrow am very tired now!  Thanks so much for your hard wok!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:21 BST (UK) »
I would like to say a big Public thanks you to Tempsford and Rosie99 for all the help that you have given me.

Not forgetting beerkat, Welsh Lady and Jen B.

Thanks you all, for your invaluable help and information!
One of my brick walls is now well and truly demolished!

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Rabbit B

Glad to be able to help and hope you will be feeling better soon

Grin

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Re: Cannot find person on 1841 census
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie,

I am feeling so much better today Thank you!  We had a heavy fall of snow in the night, very odd to see the daffs sticking up through it!

Thanks for everything again!

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