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COMPLETED - 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« on: Sunday 30 March 08 11:28 BST (UK) »

hi folks, could some kind soul have a look for my Ann Clarke [with an e].  My current subs don't access the 1851

They live, still I hope, at 3 Essex st., St Matthew Bethnal Green MDX where they were on 26 Jan 1851 when the above John got married

1841 has them as
Essex st.
Ann Clark     f 50    Not from MDX, shopkeeper
Mary Clark    f 20   MDX
Martha Clark f 12   MDX
John Clark    m 15  MDX

unfortunately, i fear Ann's husband, John Clarke, grocer, may be dead, and not just away from home.

in the 1851 Bethnal Gn index of a certain e-conglomerate, i've found the following, but whether this is an Essex st address or not, i can't tell, but it does look very hopeful Smiley or they could have moved house in the couple of months prior to the census of course! Undecided

Ann Clarke      f 63 b.c.1788          h/hold 70
Martha Clarke f 22 b.c.1823

Wm Clarke      m 41 b.c.1810        h/hold 71
Ann Clarke      f   35 b.c.1816

I'd really appreciate having these folks looked up

thank you for your time and trouble   Smiley
le durachd
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Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 March 08 11:40 BST (UK) »

There is this family
1851
3 Essex St West
bethnal Green
Mddsx
Ann Clarke head W 63 General Grocer Newbury Berks
Martha daughter U 22 Bethnal Green
Joseph Tubra?(difficult to read) Grandson 5 Bethnal Green
Thomas Banton servant to Ann Clarke 14 ireland
HO107 1541 612 page 14-15

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Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 March 08 11:52 BST (UK) »

wow!  thank you Suz, that was quick.  The ?Tubra link might produce something interesting - if i can find it. 

Thanks a million for your trouble  Cheesy

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Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 March 08 12:07 BST (UK) »

The "Tubra" could really be anything-I'll blow it up and have a really good look-whoops -sorry -his age is 5 not 55-I'm hitting the keys too hard!!!

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Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 March 08 12:31 BST (UK) »

the name is transcribed (ancestry) as Tubra -could be Subra - very difficult to read.

I have found in 1861 at 12 Albert terrace Paddington
Joseph Juda servant 15 Errand boy  b. Middlesex
in household of Robert Stuart 30 Baker Scotland and wife harriet 30 b Middlesex
RG9 2 162 26

and also there is a Joseph Tanter (transcribed Santer) living in Bethnal green with parents Joseph/Hannah

but this is just guesswork

if you care to PM me your address I will send you the 1851 image

Suz
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Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 March 08 14:24 BST (UK) »

hi Suz
hope you got the PM ok and I'd guessed the Joseph Tudra was only 5 :-)  If i can figure out how his name should be spelled, it might lead me to more members of the family.  there are lots missing yet.

thanks a million for your help
fionnghal
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SW SCT Mc*Linden McSevney Riddick Martin McTeague Blackwood Hamilton
IRE Mc[A]Linden McSevney McTeague Fitzmaurice McGrael
ARL McShannon McShenoig Murray McNachtane McMath McQuarrie
ANS Buik/ck Patrick
ABD Robertson Jackson Norrie Strath Ligertwood
FIF Lumsden Braid
ROX Davidson Lech/k
NBL Lumsden Davidson
SRY MDX deLaRoche McGreal/Grail Beavis Clarke Fitzmaurice Keens
DEV Jutsum Salter Northcott
YKS Appleyard Tyas Chester
NTH CAM Stokes
HAM Piper  LIN Flint
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COMPLETED - Re: 1851 Bethnal Green census lookup - CLARKE
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 March 08 21:45 BST (UK) »

Thanks a million, Suz, for all your help, off and on-line.
I got there in the end.

You were right, the Tubra was suspect, it turns out to be Subra Smiley

with much trawling back & forth between FreeBMD and my subscription sites, and your help, Suz, i discovered that the above grandson, Joseph Tubra was indeed Peter Joseph Subra, son of the above dau Mary Clark/e [20yo in 1841 census] and John Peter Subra, a Frenchman, b.c.1820.

FreeBMD
marr: John P Subra m. Mary Clarke, Bethnal Green Jun 1/4 vol/pg 2/51
birth: Peter Joseph Subra b. Bethnal Gn, Sep 1/4 vol/pg 2/5

John Subra turns up first in St Mary Southampton HAM, 20yo, foreign, though with no occ. indicated

1861 census Bethnal Gn RG9/253 folio 130 pg.12 sch.64
has the family, John & Mary Subra, wee Joseph now 16, and 5 other siblings .

I haven't found them yet in the 1851 or 1871 censuses, probably mis-transcribed name again.  But mum, Mary Ann Subra, nee Clarke, is still going well at in the 1881, 60yrs old with 2 sons living with her and again in the 1891 at 71yrs living with son Peter J, a mariner.

Unfortunately, i never found the original dad, John Clarke, who must have died before the 1841, but i've made a great leap backwards with my research.

Thanks again Smiley
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fionnghal

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LOOK-UPS Carrbridge cem.
RESEARCH:
SW SCT Mc*Linden McSevney Riddick Martin McTeague Blackwood Hamilton
IRE Mc[A]Linden McSevney McTeague Fitzmaurice McGrael
ARL McShannon McShenoig Murray McNachtane McMath McQuarrie
ANS Buik/ck Patrick
ABD Robertson Jackson Norrie Strath Ligertwood
FIF Lumsden Braid
ROX Davidson Lech/k
NBL Lumsden Davidson
SRY MDX deLaRoche McGreal/Grail Beavis Clarke Fitzmaurice Keens
DEV Jutsum Salter Northcott
YKS Appleyard Tyas Chester
NTH CAM Stokes
HAM Piper  LIN Flint
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