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Topic: "... just an AgLab". JUST an AgLab ?? (Read 6985 times)
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Shropshire Lass
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Are all you (UK) descendants of Ag Labs are watching "Tales from the Green Valley" (BBC2, Friday, 7.30pm)
A group of archeologists are running a farm as it would have been worked in the 1620s, putting into practice what they have learnt intellectually. It's very interesting seeing the theories put to the test and the archeologists learning from the practical experience.
Seeing how much our Ag Labs had to know and how many skills they had to master to do their work as it changed through the year should be enough to stop anyone thinking of them as "just Ag Labs"!
Monica
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kerryb
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Monica
I meant to watch, but have missed both episodes so far and forgot the video! 
It is a good series, shall I remember this Friday?
kerryb
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker !
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This is an old thread I just found (should be outside in the garden planting the broad beans !) ... but having lived for many years on the equator in rural Africa, it occurred to me that the lives of the people I lived amongst must be very like the lives of our Ag.Lab ancestors ... very hand to mouth living, in very basic living conditions. But extremely skilled at all sorts of things ... looking after cattle, making their own tools, growing things ... and the women's lives were hard also ... too many children, carrying water and wood, and capable of walking what to us seems like vast distances, because of lack of transport. We had a lad staying with us for a while who walked 20 miles, in the dark, to school every Monday morning; stayed there for the week, then walked home, in the dark, through the bush, on a Friday evening ...
Anyway, I must go back to being my 21st ag.lab self, and plant those beans !
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slightlyfoxed
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That is so interesting , particularly as Im researching how the 1820 British Settlers lived when they got to the Eastern Cape of South Africa and were shocked to find a wilderness.
I was puzzling as to how they got water since the rivers are in deep gullies in the Albany region. I'd guess buckets from a stream.
I think that having come from the England where there were some advances on 17th Century by the time of the industrial revolution, which was in full swing by 1820. By 1820 they would probabaly have struggled to do things the way their forebears did! Although I suspect they might have had a better idea of how than we would today if we were plunged into a similar situation.
You're right about walking. I was reading about William Blake and a period in his life, living in a remote village and he walked 7 miles to take his sister to catch a coach, and back again. These days most of us go pale at thought of walking more than half a mile!
Green Valley was a brilliant series, I was glued to it. Wish Id taped it!
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Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn. Cadle in South Africa.
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker !
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The Africans I knew best were in rural Kenya; they sometimes used wells for water, or more likely, Lake Victoria's dubious water (bilharzia, malaria, dysentery ... hope no-one reading this at tea-time !) ... or local rivers and water-holes. It wasn't the tea that made the water brown, it was the water ! I think Africans out in the arid areas fared better for cleaner water ... it came from deep wells, and a group of men would climb on foot-holds down the wells, and pass the water up in skins, hand to hand ... singing as they did it !
I think it was the same for settlers in Canada ... my Gr. aunt went to Canada in1898 ... and then spent some time (years ?) travelling in a covered wagon looking for suitable land with her husband ! Imagine that, going from a relatively comfortable life 'in service' in Hampshire, and then a few years later, having to have babies in a wagon, live in a 'soddy', and brave the temperatures of 50 below on the prairies in the winter. Only 100 years ago ...
We dont know we are born ...
(And I see you are also interested in Pomeroy's ? Me too ...)
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meles
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I'm glad this thread has been brought up again - it started before I joined Rootschat! Made me feel rather guilty as I had thought of my lot "Oh, they're just ag labs", now I realise that they were skilled and contributed hugely to society.
Interesting that the thread lead to S Africa, where the other half comes from.
meles
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Shropshire Lass
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Co-incidentally I have just been looking at this online book - "Handy Farm Devices and How to Make Them" by Rolfe Cobleigh. It's an American book, published in 1910, when self-sufficiency really was self-sufficiency!
Looking through it, you have to admire the skills required not just to do the jobs on the farm but being able to make the tools required to do them.
Monica
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker !
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I'm still using almost every time I do gardening, a 'jembe' (an African hoe) made for me 10 years ago by an African friend ... from a curved piece of hardwood cut from a tree, and a lump of beaten out car spring ! Recycling ? Nothing new ! Its done every day in many parts of Africa, and was I'm sure by our Ag. lab's !!
My own daughter is a great recycler ... she married last year, and they asked for 'hand-made', 'home-made' or 'recycled' gifts only ... and they had fantastic presents !
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker !
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Yep, the dirty finger nails live on !
My Ag.lab's gardened; my grandmother had her Hampshire garden in London thru the war ... there's many a saucepan she let boil dry while day-dreaming in her garden in Fulham ! ... my father gardened, grew us carrots like base-ball bats; I garden, grow more modest sized veg; my three daughters all garden.
As you say, when the dirt is under the finger-nails and in the blood, it stays there !
And isn't it GREAT that it does !
Lydart
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kerryb
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Dirt under the fingernails - that is an interesting point actually!
My mum's paternal line have been Yeoman, farmers and Ag Labs since the 1500s and guess what my brother, my sister and I have all got vegetable gardens and both my brother and sister have chickens.
As you say the dirt lives on!
Kerry
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kerryb
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Thanks for that Christopher
The TV programme starts on BBC1 in the next week. I hope it bears some passing resemblence to the book! It's got some high profile names starring.
Kerry
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Lydart
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Great Granny Williams, the Dorset button maker !
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Is that the Lark Rise books ? I do hope so !
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kerryb
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Hi Lydart
It is, it's called Lark Rise to Candleford so her childhood and then off to the post office.
Dawn French and Julia Sawalha are in it amongst others.
Kerry
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