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Gadget
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« Reply #60 on: Saturday 07 June 08 17:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Andy  Smiley

Now I'll give you a quote:

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But answer came there none
And this was scarcely odd, because
They’d eaten every one.

Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

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« Reply #61 on: Saturday 07 June 08 17:49 BST (UK) »

Well all I can say is I hope our webspace tasted good then!!!!! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #62 on: Saturday 07 June 08 19:18 BST (UK) »

I can only repeat an earlier quote that I gave on this subject from The Listeners:

"Never the least stir made the listeners,
    Though every word he spake
Fell echoing through the shadowiness of the still house
    From the one man left awake:
Ay, they heard his foot upon the stirrup,
    And the sound of iron on stone,
And how the silence surged softly backward,
    When the plunging hoofs were gone."


. . . . still nothing has  changed.

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« Reply #63 on: Saturday 07 June 08 20:56 BST (UK) »

When doing a search on Google the other day I came across information on another site that looked like mine but was written differently.  In shock I tried to head to the home page to see who hosted it and lost the page.  There isnt the possiblity that our web sites have been stolen by some one. I will continue to try and find the site and keep you all posted
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« Reply #64 on: Saturday 07 June 08 21:10 BST (UK) »

I would hardly think that our websites have been stolen.  Although, nothing is really fully copyright on the web.

However, it would have been before last Nov/December because no one has been able to access them since then  Sad

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« Reply #65 on: Saturday 07 June 08 21:36 BST (UK) »

That's my understanding Gadget too, with the server down nobody will be able to access our websites except ourselves from whatever copy we have on our hard drive depending on what software packages we use to put our websites up.

What worries me is how to access what is on the server and retrieve it should it ever reappear.  Undecided

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Searching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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« Reply #66 on: Saturday 07 June 08 21:47 BST (UK) »

When doing a search on Google the other day I came across information on another site that looked like mine but was written differently. In shock I tried to head to the home page to see who hosted it and lost the page. There isnt the possiblity that our web sites have been stolen by some one. I will continue to try and find the site and keep you all posted

I had a few hits on cached pages (on google) since the rootschat space went down.  They showed up on my statcounter stats.

Clearly, ghosts are just cached images  Wink

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Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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« Reply #67 on: Sunday 08 June 08 16:35 BST (UK) »

According to Rootchat's own rules if a site receives no hits for 60 days it will be deleted by the administrators. If therefore follows that since our sites have had no hits for in excess of 6 months our sites have been deleted. I wonder if anyone has tried to put up a new site on the server and what responses they get when they apply for free rootschat webspace.

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« Reply #68 on: Sunday 08 June 08 17:03 BST (UK) »

Does that mean we can ask for our sites to be deleted from the server or do we not own the copyright?? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #69 on: Sunday 08 June 08 17:08 BST (UK) »

The server isn't there anymore. Our sites are probably backed up onto tape or whatever. if you try to access your space or even apply for a webspace, you get a 'not found'.

I think sunnyboy is maybe feigning innocence  Undecided

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« Reply #70 on: Sunday 08 June 08 17:09 BST (UK) »

For your Information:

Obviously if the server is down, then the sixty day rule doesn't apply.

At the moment the server is offline, which means nobody has access to them through the internet.  This also means they can't be stolen.  As Julian said, sometimes you can still find various pages in the internet, but they are all from ISP caches

Nobody has put up a new site on the server since it went offline - because it is offline !


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« Reply #71 on: Sunday 08 June 08 17:14 BST (UK) »

I've said it before, and been reprimanded for it, but I'll say it again...

You have all been remarkably patient and loyal to the Rootschat server.

However the treatment from Rootschat leaves a great deal to be desired. Promises, after promises, servers delivered and about to be put on line, and still, months later.... nothing.

I appreciate that Tristan is a volunteer, but it is unreasonable to make ongoing promises to your members, and keep letting them down. If the sites can no longer be hosted then just say so, and everyone knows where they stand.

I took the plunge some months ago, and have learned a great deal since, now have a much more comprehensive site than was possible with Rootschat, albeit that I pay £5 per year for the privilege. In the long run the absence of the Rootschat server has done me a favour. Maybe we should all see this community for its strengths, and look wider for our web site hosting.

These comments are not intended to denigrate Tristan, but he clearly does not have the time to do all he is attempting to do without further delegation.

Let's hope you all find a happy solution to the problem.

Martin

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« Reply #72 on: Sunday 08 June 08 19:14 BST (UK) »

Martin

I would hope you are not reprimanded for what you have said.  Much of what you say echoes my feelings.   I feel very let down by the ongoing silence.

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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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« Reply #73 on: Sunday 08 June 08 19:19 BST (UK) »

I wish to know why anyone should be reprimanded for spending 6 months patiently waiting and being ignored constantly when politely asking why and when?

Me thinks we are being taken for fools  Angry Angry

Sorry if this offends but that is the way I feel.  Angry  I could use a lot stronger language but don't want to offend in that way as well.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #74 on: Sunday 08 June 08 19:21 BST (UK) »

I don't know what the position is as regards copyright on the internet, maybe as it is in the public domain it is not copyrighted.

No one has said that the server is not there anymore. The administrators have said it is offline, feigning they are waiting for a developer.

Maybe we are just being fobbed off, or maybe something will eventually appear online that resembles our sites but under a different name.

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