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JosiahS
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Hi Pat
Thanks for those.
I looked at the one born in Wybunbury to Thomas but his mother's name was Rebecca which does not fit. I had presumed that the one who was born in 1755 would have been too young to marry in 1770 and be marked as a potter (he would still be an apprentice I presume).
I need to check the NCL All Saints marriages to see if there is further information - 1770 is missing from the BTs on the LDS site.
Thanks again for all your help - if I find more I'll get back
Ashley
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DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis Buckinghamshire: Saunders N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw ALL CENSUS INFORMATION CONTAINED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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madabout
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Hi Ashley
Will go with John son of Thomas & Hannah being the right chap because of his children's names fitting. No harm done if we find out later it is wrong because you can alter it.
Not sure about apprenticeships in those days. Marriage ages I have found the following In 1753 it was fixed at 14 for men and 12 for women and remained at that until the Age of Marriage Act 1929 when it was raised to 16 for both."
Above taken verbatim from The Family Tree Detective by Colin D Rogers
Have checked with some info. that Mrs Diana Grant gave my brother. She doesn't give a baptism or burial for him & no parents named.
Her John, Margaret, Nancy age 12, William age 8, Thomas age 4 were removed from Newcastle under Lyme to Drayton in Hales in 1790 as place of last legal settlement. She doesn't give John's baptism details but seems to indicate he might have been married before he married Margaret Thomas who was a widow.
Also have settlement paper for Ann Thursfield daughter of John Thursfield feltmaker from Newcastle under Lyme being sent as a pauper apprentice to Styal in Cheshire in 1790. Place of settlement Market Drayton.
I have a death for John Thursfield age 79 of poor house buried 6 Dec 1824 with a note made by might be Norton or Cheshire?
Getting back to Thomas & Hannah. I have them married in 1745 Norton in the Moors. Hannah's name was Leigh.
children
John 1746 Norton in the Moors
Stephen 1749/50 Norton in the Moors
Hannah 1753 Norton in the Moors
Thomas 1754 Norton in the Moors
James 1758 Norton in the Moors
Susannah 1761 Norton in the Moors
Thomas Buried 1765 Norton in the Moors
James buried 1765 Norton in the Moors
Looking for a baptism for Thomas married 1745 they are few & far between
I have got one not on the igi & that is Thomas Son of John & Ann at Trentham but that is in 1728.
I have checked names & dates but if I am out let me know.
Pat
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Goulds of Sheffield, Thursfields of Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Archers of Smisby, Ropes of Earsham/Eastwood, Hursts of Dukinfield/Stalybridge/Kingsbury, Andrew roller makers of Stalybridge/Dukinfield.
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JosiahS
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Pat you are kind!
I must say that gut feeling is that John from Norton is my chap though I am have the impression that Staffordshire records are not complete on the IGI - if I am wrong please tell me.
I had found the first two children to Thomas and Hannah (John and Stephen) do thank you very much for the others. I suspect that Hannah Leigh is the one born in Norton in 1724 whose father's name was not recorded!!
I also had a snoop around for Thomas' baptism and could not really see one which fitted so the fact that you can suggest another one is good.
Interestingly my John had a daughter Susannah which is a name which appears from no-where - I think the naming system indicates that children were named after siblings of both parents after the parents names were exhausted. If that were the case then having already used up Hannah, John would next use Susannah. They also had a daughter called Frances and I cannot yet see where that came from.
Thanks again for all your help, Pat
All the best
Ashley
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DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Bainbridge, Chilton NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley, Crumbie CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis Buckinghamshire: Saunders N Yorks: Miller (Swaledale), Raw ALL CENSUS INFORMATION CONTAINED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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JosiahS
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Hi Pat
Thanks for the additional information - so maybe her parents had married in Carswall, wherever that is - could it be Caverswall??
Ashley
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madabout
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Copied from printed register (with spelling mistakes)
Memorand. A Copy of ye Register for what is pass'd transmitted into ye court, July 21st, 1730.
John Repton, Ministr
Ch. Wardeins
William Leigh,
John Cartwright,
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Goulds of Sheffield, Thursfields of Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Archers of Smisby, Ropes of Earsham/Eastwood, Hursts of Dukinfield/Stalybridge/Kingsbury, Andrew roller makers of Stalybridge/Dukinfield.
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JosiahS
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Yes, thanks for that one Dave, I'll take a look
Cheers
Ashley
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JosiahS
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WOW! Pat that is an incredible piece of work!!
Thank you so much for sharing it with me.
Lots of stuff to start digging around in when I get home this evening.
Cheers
Ashley
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