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JosiahS
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 11 June 09 11:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

Where did you find the apprenticeship record? - I had a look on the listings on British Origins and it was not there

Cheers

Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 11 June 09 12:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

It was from my brother's research at the PRO.

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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 11 June 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Pat - I'll take a look myself next time I get across there.

Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

It must have been taken from a book there.

Apprentices vol 1-5 Index of Masters 1710 to 1762
49/86 1729 Thos. Thos. of Hixham to Jn Thrslheld of Newcastle £100
ex in bks at PRO

I take it ex in bks at PRO is short for extract in books at Public Record Office (now the National Archives)

Pat
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

have you found Louisa Thursfield the convict in 1823. She was transported to Australia.

Pat

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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

No she is a new one on me - is she of the NE or Staffordshire lot?

Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 11 June 09 17:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

from memory Sunderland but she was tried at Warwick. Will look for her details.

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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 11 June 09 17:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

Was she born 1823 or transported 1823?

Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #53 on: Friday 12 June 09 04:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

Transported 1823, she had a child Thomas.

Pat
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

I have found the transportation of Louisa but I can't find her at all in my records - do you know if Thursfield was her maiden name or married name??

I have also found out that Robert Thursfield, grandson of John T and Eleanor Rowentree by their son John, married in South Shields and then moved back to Staffordshire - he had three children there that I am aware of - Harriet c 1855, Alice Elizabeth c 1858 both in Hanley and then Maria c 1860 in Longton.

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Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 28 June 09 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

I can add a bit.

1824 Index of New South Wales Convict indents. Louisa, nursing maid tried Warwick April 1824 age 18 years life sentence native place Sunderland, height 5’ 5” eyes hazel, hair black, complexion brown, little freckled, well, single.

From memory I thought Robert had one daughter born in Germany, will have to check.

Par

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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #56 on: Monday 29 June 09 05:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

I still can't fin her - the only one which vaguely could be her is one from the IGI and Bishop's Transcripts which is  Louisa Cropfield in 1808 - she is marked as 3rd daughter of Thomas Cropfield, Guilder and Plater of Birmingham and his wife Margaret Anson of Colchester.

Even if the surname is wrong then she is from a different family.

Hmmm...puzzling.

Ashley
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CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
Buckinghamshire: Saunders
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #57 on: Monday 29 June 09 08:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

I've got a Thomas & Margaret Thursfield in Birmingham but he is a gunlockfiler in 1814.

I would put Louisa Thursfield on hold. Her son Thomas I think returned to England but was a mariner so went back & forth to NSW. His family stayed in London with his wife who  I think  had Northumberland connections, I would have to search them out to make sure.

according to 1851 & 1861 census Robert moved about a bit. I have 4 children for him.

one thing for sure there are more records appearing by the day, trying to sort out a Thursfield who died in Scutari during the Crimean War

Pat
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 15 August 09 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat

I notice Louisa Thursfield was transported for her second crime: She was found guilty of larceny in January 1823 in Warwick and was sentenced to 6 months.  Then she was found guilty of robbery at the Lent assizes at Warwick in 1824 and sentenced to death.  It must have been commuted as she was transported September 1824.

Cheers

Ashley
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 15 August 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ashley

Louisa was a busy girl.

I've started to put bits on Dave Thursfield's site. He has just added a piece about Peter Thursfield watchmaker for me. Wondered if you wanted to add a peice about your Thursfields, I'm sure he would be pleased to hear from you.

Take it you aren't a football fan on a Saturday afternoon.

Pat
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