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Census Lookups please - TOLMAN
« on: Friday 28 March 08 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Would some kind person please look for:

Daniel TOLMAN  abt: 1832 father John
he married Anne Cox 1864  -  Long Clawson

that is all I know about him.

Many thanks
Kay

couldn't find them on 1881 Census
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Re: Census Lookups please - TOLMAN
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 March 08 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kay,

I can't even see the marriage Huh

The one Leicestershire marriage I see in 1864 for an Anne Cox is to either a John Godber or a Daniel Sharman  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 March 08 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Have a look at this Sharman couple - Ann is from Long Clawson - what do you think? 
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=12287029
RG11/3148 48 9

Do you have the marriage cert? What's Daniel's occupation?  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 March 08 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tati
Marriage details taken from:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~framland/par/lcm74.htm

21 Nov 1864 Daniel Tolman  Bachelor Gamekeeper    father: John Tolman Lab
married  Anne Cox   Spinster   Long Clawson  father:William Cox  Gardener

Then they all seem to disappear!!!

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Kay
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Re: Census Lookups please - TOLMAN
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 March 08 06:56 GMT (UK) »
Well, I have a feeling there's something weird with that marriage - it doesn't appear on FreeBMD either!

So Daniel was a gamekeeper from Bestwould
 
Look at this in 1861:
RG9/2277 51 3
Prestwold, Leicestershire
Village Entrance Lodge
Daniel Sharman, head, unm, 37, Game Keeper, b. Northamptonshire Bulwick

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Morning Tati

Well no wonder I couldn't find them!! I take it that Daniel was alone on the 1861 Census?   I have now found the christening of Daniel  and found both Daniel and Ann on the 1881 Census.

I think I will post on the Northants boards for 41/51 Census.

Many thanks for you help
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Stay here with me, I'll have a look  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 March 08 10:05 GMT (UK) »
1851 isn't much help ...

1851
HO107/2094 606 12
Braceborough, Lincolnshire
Daniel Sharman, lodger, unm, 25, Licensed Hawker, b. Northamptonshire Bulwick

in the household of a Joseph Francis, Farmer and Innkeeper (there are 4 other lodgers in the household)

I can't ID him in 1841 but the IGI has a christening (from an I-batch)
Danl. Sharman Christening 18 JUL 1824   Bulwick, Northampton Father John Sharman Mother Anne 
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 March 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Possible siblings:
Elizh. Sharman - Christening 07 FEB 1836 Bulwick, Northampton
James Sharman - Christening 29 JAN 1832 Bulwick, Northampton
Edward Sharman - Christening 26 MAR 1826 Bulwick, Northampton
Wm. Sharman - Christening 08 FEB 1829 Bulwick, Northampton

Which makes me think this is likely to be his brother & father in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=16996633

John and daughter Eliza are in Bulwick in 1851 therefore I assume they should be in 1841 as well - if only I could find Bulwick! Does anyone know under which parish Bulwick comes in 1841?  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 March 08 09:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Tati

Many thanks for your detective work in searching for my elusive ancestors! I certainly have a lot more info than I did before - pity that the 1841 didn't turn anything up.

Once again many thanks
Kay
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Where's Bulwick in 1841??
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 March 08 10:46 BST (UK) »
I'm still hoping someone finds them  Cheesy
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