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Beveridge connections.
« on: Tuesday 01 April 08 05:21 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

As we have seen, it becomes increasingly difficult to keep individuals in the correct thread as we scan the different generations. We have seen many connections appear in the Wilsons, Muirs and Burts, just to give a few examples, and now it is time to have a look at yet another Fife family that appears to be in the Family Tree of many researchers who communicate with me. That family is the Beveridges.

I could start with my Great-Grandmother, Agnes Beveridge, who married John Forsyth on the 10th October, 1873 at Old Monkland (Coatbridge), and then work backwards in time. However, I have aleady made mention of her as the grand-daughter of George Beveridge who was the husband of Janet Wilson, so there would be little to gain in repeating myself.

Let's go back to about the year 1700 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety when James Beveridge was born to his parents, James Beveridge and Catherine Paton. James and Catherine only had two children: James and his younger brother, John, who was born about five years later, in 1705, also at Coaltown of Fordell.

When James Beveridge Junior attained the age of about 25, he married Dorothy (or Doretta) Williamson on the 29th May, 1725 at Dalgety in Fife. All that I know about Dorothy, is that she was born on 2nd January, 1698 at the coastal town of Aberdour in Fife, and that her father was John Williamson. At this point, I have no idea who her mother was. Perhaps, some other researcher out there may care to do a search for that information, especially if they are trying to research their ancestors who are connected to this family.

James and Dorothy had the following children:

Euphan Beveridge born 29th January, 1727 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety. She went on to marry Thomas Muir on the 23rd June, 1754.
Elizabeth Beveridge born 8th September, 1728 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Effie Beveridge born 18th September, 1730 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Alison Beveridge born 21st January, 1732 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Janet Beveridge born 18th September, 1733 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety. She went on to marry James Beveridge in the year 1759.
John Beveridge born 1st January, 1736 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Alexander Beveridge born 11th August, 1737 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Margaret Beveridge born 7th February, 1739 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Walter Beveridge born 11th November, 1740 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.

Once again, I would ask that you check the above for any obvious errors and let us know if any amendments need to be made. As you can see, when a couple marry having the same surname, it can become rather confusing, and that leads to errors.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 05:38 BST (UK) »


Hello All,

In my previous posting, I made mention of James Beveridge, who married Dorothy (Doretta) Williamson on the 29th of May, 1725. Now we will be taking a look at his younger brother, John Beveridge, a coalminer, who was born in the year 1705 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety in Fife. He married Grissel Symsone (Simpson) on the 20th August, 1731. As we already know from my previous posting, John's parents were James Beveridge and Catharine Paton. It's my understanding that Grissel was born in Dalgety about 1709.

Their children:

John Beveridge born 4th December, 1732 at Dalgety in Fife.
James Beveridge born 15th June, 1736 a Dalget in Fife.
William Beveridge born 12th September, 1738 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Helen Beveridge born 16th December, 1741 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Alexander Beveridge born 23rd May, 1744 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Euphan Beveridge born 13th February, 1747 at Dalgety in Fife. She died at the early age of 23 on the 23rd November, 1770 at Dalgety.
George Beveridge born 8th January, 1753 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Janet Beveridge born 9th September, 1749 at Dalgety in Fife.
Elizabeth Beveridge born 18th October, 1750 at Dalgety in Fife.

As always, I would ask that other researchers check the above for any obvious errors and let us know so that the appropriate amendments can be made.

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Tom.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 06:02 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

In this posting I will be taking a look at James Beveridge, a son of the individuals that I wrote about in my previous posting, John Beveridge and Grissel Sympsone (Simpson). This means that we are now looking at a grandchild of James Beveridge who married Catharine Paton.

As we saw in the previous posting, James Beveridge was born on the 15th June, 1736 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety in Fife. When he was about 23, he married Janet Beveridge, (here we go again with those damned matching surnames!). Please note how gingerly I'm walking on this thin ice. When you print off my postings and eventually insert them into your Family Tree, believe me, you'll look back and think, good Old Tom for saving me a lot of confusion - or words to that affect, I would hope!

Janet Beveridge was a couple or so years older than her husband, having been born on the 18th September, 1733 at Dalgety.

Their children:

John Beveridge born 11th February at a place called Habbeshole in Dalgety. He went on to marry yet another Grizzel, Grizzel Beveridge, in October, 1784.
James Beveridge born 13th September, 1762 at Dalgety in Fife.
William Beveridge born 8th January, 1767 at Dalgety in Fife.
Dorothy Beveridge born 5th December, 1768 at Dalgety in Fife.
Elizabeth Beveridge born 3rd January, 1771 at Dalgety in Fife.

How many of you noticed the name, Dorothy Beveridge, on the above list? Is this yet another good example of the "naming patterns" that I keep "spouting" about? Bear in mind that Dorothy Williamson had married James Beveridge back on 29th May, 1725.

Again, please check for any obvious errors and get back to us so that we can make the necessary amendments.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 06:19 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

In my previous posting I made mention of John Beveridge, who was born at a place called Habbeshole in Dalgety on 11th February, 1760, and that he went on to marry Grissel Beveridge. The date of their marriage was 22nd October, 1784. Johns parents were James Beveridge and Janet Beveridge, and his grandparents, John Beveridge and Grissel Sympsone (Simpson).

Their children:

Elizabeth Beveridge born 28h April, 1786 at Dalgety in Fife.
Grizzel Beveridge born 9th June, 1788 at Dalgety in Fife.
John Beveridge born 13th July, 1790 at Dalgety in Fife.
Nelly Beveridge born 12th January, 1793 at Dalgety in Fife.
William Beveridge born 11th January, 1794 at Dalgety in Fife.
George Beveridge born 25th August, 1797 at Dalgety in Fife.
Alexander Beveridge born 28th June, 1797 at Dalgety in Fife.
Joan Beveridge born 15th August, 1807 at Dalgety in Fife.

Again, I would ask that you check for any obvious errors and let us know so that corrections can be made.

Kind Regards,


Tom.
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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 18:48 BST (UK) »

From above posting:
Their children:

Elizabeth Beveridge born 28h April, 1786 at Dalgety in Fife.
Grizzel Beveridge born 9th June, 1788 at Dalgety in Fife.
John Beveridge born 13th July, 1790 at Dalgety in Fife.
Nelly Beveridge born 12th January, 1793 at Dalgety in Fife.
William Beveridge born 11th January, 1794 at Dalgety in Fife.
George Beveridge born 25th August, 1797 at Dalgety in Fife.
Alexander Beveridge born 28th June, 1797 at Dalgety in Fife.
Joan Beveridge born 15th August, 1807 at Dalgety in Fife.

Tom - slip of the keys?  look at George & Alexander above. can't be both 1797!!

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 18:58 BST (UK) »

Tom,  just looked on SP at John Williamson - daughter Dorothea 2/1/1698. No wife given but Dorothea was a twin. Other girl called Margaret.!!

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 April 08 04:02 BST (UK) »


Hello All,

After a couple of days rest, I'm back in harness again with a continuation of the Beveridge Family History.

Alexander Beveridge was the son of David Beveridge, born about 1691 at Ceres in Fife and Margaret Small. He was born on the 12th March,1720/1721 at Dunfermline in Fife. Alexander married Christian Moreis (Morris?, who was born on 26th March, 1729. The marriage took place on the 28th October, 1750 at Dunfermline in Fife. Christian's parents were Robert Moreis and Margaret Crockett.

Their children:

Margaret Beveridge born 13th October, 1751 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Janet Beveridge born 16th October, 1752 at Dunfermline in Fife.
David Beveridge born 13th July, 1755 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Robert Beveridge born 5th July, 1757 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Christian Beveridge born 26th October, 1759 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Alexander Beveridge born 20th February, 1761 at Dunfermline in Fife.
William Beveridge born 27th March, 1763 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Christian Beveridge born 17th May, 1766 at Dunfermline in Fife.
James Beveridge born 18th December, 1768 at Dunfermline in Fife.
John Beveridge born 26th January, 1771 at Dunfermline in Fife.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 April 08 05:42 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

In this postings I shall be dealing with a connection between the following families: Beveridges, Muir's and Livingstone's.

William Beveridge was the son of John Beveridge and Grissel Simpson and born on the 25th July, 1760 at Dalgety in Fife. He married Elizabeth Livingstone,who was born on the 1st May, 1739 to Archibald Livingston and Christian Muir, who had married on the 25th June, 1725 at Dalgety. The marriage took place on the 25th July, 1760 at Dalgety in Fife.

Their children:

John Beveridge born 1st November, 1761 at Dalgety in Fife.
Christian Beveridge born 25th December, 1762 at Dalgety in Fife.
Grissel Beveridge born 11th October, 1764 at Dalgety in Fife.
Archibald Beveridge born 1st November, 1767 at Dalgety in Fife.
James Beveridge born 16th December, 1768 at Dalgety in Fife.
Alexander Beveridge born 3rd April, 1771 at Dalgety in Fife.
Elizabeth Beveridge born 28th 1774 at Dalgety in Fife.

Mary Beveridge born 16th January, 1777 at Dalgety in Fife.
Helen Beveridge born 17th January, 1779 at Dalgety in Fife.
George Beveridge born 15th November, 1781 at Dalgety in Fife.
William Beveridge born 31st May, 1785 at Dalgety in Fife.

In my next posting, I shall be dealing with Elizabeth's sister, Margaret Livingston.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 April 08 05:58 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

As I stated in my previous posting, I will be dealing with Margaret Livingstone, the sister of Elizabeth, who married William Beveridge.

Alexander Beveridge was born on the 23rd May, 1744 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety, to John Beveridge and Grissel Simpson. He married Margaret Livingston, who was born on the 27th April, 1742 at Dalgety in Fife. The marriage took place on the 11th September, 1767 at Dalgety in Fife.

Their children:

Christian Beveridge born 7th October, 1768 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
John Beveridge born 27th April, 1770 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Grissel Beveridge born 4th April, 1772 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Marion Beveridge born 10th September, 1774 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety
Archibald Beveridge born 23rd June, 1777 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Janet Beveridge born 8th October, 1779 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
James Beveridge born 6th August, 1782 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.
Elizabeth Beveridge born 2nd November, 1784 at Coaltown of Fordell, Dalgety.

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Tom.
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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 April 08 06:23 BST (UK) »



Hello All,

In a previous posting I made mention of Alexander Beveridge who married Chritian Moreis. This posting is concerned with one of their sons, William Beveridge, who was born on the 27th March, 1763 at Dunfermline in Fife. He married Elizabeth (Betty) Hynd on the 28th October, 1785 at Dunfermline.

Their children:

Alexander Beveridge born 14th August, 1786 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Thomas Beveridge born 6th May, 1788 at Dunfermline in Fife.
William Beveridge born 26th April, 1790 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Elspet Beveridge born 3rd August, 1792 at Dunfermline in Fife.
David Beveridge born 16th March, 1795 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Robert Beveridge born 24th July, 1797 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Christian Beveridge born 23rd December, 1798 at Dunfermline in Fife.
John Beveridge born 12th May, 1801 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Betty Beveridge born 9th April, 1806 at Dunfermline in Fife.
Alexander Beveridge born 9th April, 1810 at Dunfermline in Fife.

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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 April 08 06:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Tom,

I do not want to deviate from your Beveridge line but thought i would throw in my line in case someone reading yours recognises a relation.
When researching your Beveridges is it always spelled the same way?  I notice that it was spelled Belfrage on many parish records.

This is the furthest i can get back in my line

John Belfrage  married 30th Dec 1715 to Janet Bell in Inverkeithing Fife

Children
John Belfrage    b.13.01.1717
Rebecca Belfrage b.19.06.1720
Jean Beveridge b. 17.03.1723
John Beveridge b.04.01.1726   (my relation)
James Beveridge b.17.03.1728
Janett Beveridge b. 03.09.1730   

Would the distance between Dalgetty and Inverkeithing be considered far at that time?
You are doing a great job Tom i do read the posts hoping for a link.  Its as if there was a split between the Coalmining Beveridges and the Weaving Beveridges.  Maybe even the Thresher Beveridges.

One thing for sure is there was plenty of them!!

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Ailsa



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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 April 08 09:22 BST (UK) »



Hello Aisa,

It's lovely to hear from you. The names "Belfrage" and "Beveridge" were probably variant spellings of the same name just as "Stevinson" and "Steinson" were. At one coalmine near Dunfermline, in August 1741, I can see a James Bevridge and a Thomas Bevridge as well as an entry for Martinmas 1741 where they are shown as James Belfrage and Thomas Belfrage. In another paper going back to the colliers of Berrielaw we can read about James Belfrage, Thomas Belfrage and William Belfrage. Now, these are the things that you wont find on some of the search engines used for genealogy - they are from documents made out by the private coalmines.

These documents give me names such as Bessie Allan, who "went to ye Indes" as well as James Trotter who also "went to ye Indes". Bearing in mind that this was before transportation to Australia, it makes quite interesting reading. Time and time again, I see names straight out of my Family Tree, and it brings everything to life, when one realises that a coal miner's wife, and sometimes daughter, acted as coal bearers.

The distances from the Royal Burgh of Kirkcaldy to places such as Beath, Coaltown of Dalgety, Aberdour and Inverkeithing and even Torryburn, weren't all that much, and as you will see from my postings, families moved to and fro from and to Dunfermline. I know the area quite well although I now live south of the City of Melbourne, here in Australia. Many members of my family still live around the Cowdenbeath and Aberdour areas of Fife.

If you would like to contact me off-line, then perhaps I can take a much closer look at members of your family and try to help you out.

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Tom.
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Re: Beveridge connections.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 April 08 09:57 BST (UK) »



Hello again, Ailsa,

As I mentioned in my previous posting, the distances between places like Beath, Dalgety and Inverkeithing weren't all that great. My grandparents and great-grandparents used to work in the mines to the north of Dunfermline although they lived around Hill of Beath. Talking about that, sometimes various records speak of Dunfermline as though they are talking about the Royal Burgh itself. That isn't always the case!

I know for example that an Andrew Belfrage married Christian Gib(b) and their son, John Belfrage was born/christened on 28th December, 1697 "at Dunfermline" - that could mean near Dunfermline.

There were quite a few Belfrages who married at Inverkeithing in the early 1700's. Here are just a few:

Bessie Belfrage married John Thomson on 6th June, 1703.
Christian Belfrage married William Smart on 17th July, 1711.
Henry Belfrage married Christian Robertson on 6th January, 1712.

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Tom
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 April 08 10:09 BST (UK) »

Ailsa, here are a list of the children of John Belfrage and Janet Bell. The John born in 1717 must have died as an infant. These are christening dates not birth dates from SP

13/01/1717 BELFRAGE JOHN born to JOHN BELFRAGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing

19/06/1720 BEVERIDGE REBECCA born to JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing

17/03/1723 BEVERIDGE JEAN born to JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing

04/01/1726 BEVERIDGE JOHN born to JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing

17/03/1728 BEVERIDGE JAMES born to JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing

15/09/1730 BEVERIDGE JANET born to JOHN BEVERIDGE/JANET BELL at Inverkeithing
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 April 08 10:22 BST (UK) »

Checked the marriage date for the parents and got these 2

17/11/1715 BELFRAGE JOHN married JANET BELL at Inverkeithing /FIFE

30/12/1715 BELFRAGE JOHN married JANET BELL at Inverkeithing /FIFE

There are various spellings of the surname for other marriages around that time such as

11/08/1704 BELFRADG JOHN married RACHALL THALLAN

02/05/1700 BELFRAGE JOHN married JANET HORN

24/11/1711 BERRAGE JOHN married JANET BERRAGE

12/10/1701 BEVERAGE JOHN married MARGARET BROUGH

12/06/1708 BEVEREGE JOHN married MARY HIDLESTONES

05/11/1702 BEVRADGE JOHN married EUPHAN BEVRADGE

23/12/1712 BEVRAGE JOHN married ISOBEL LOW

07/10/1711 BEVERAGE JOHN married ANNE FAIRNY

20/11/1713 BELFRAGE JOHN married GIELLS MCLARINE
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