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marriage lookup for James Belcher
« on: Tuesday 29 July 08 12:23 BST (UK) »

I am hoping someone can find this marriage for me;

James Belcher marriage to  Rachel Matthews.       The info I have been given says they were

married on 11 Jan 1784 in West Hanney.  However I have looked thru the Hanney transcripts (fiche)

and I am unable to find them there. I have also looked thru a number of neighboring parishes and still

cannot trace this entry. The I.G.I. hasn't yielded any results either.

Rachel is supposed to have died in 1789 in West Hanney at the age of 28 -  again there is record of

her burial in Hanney. I have found a James Belcher marrying an Elizabeth Angel in 1792 in Hanney

and regard her as his 2nd wife.


Any help would be appreciated

Alan

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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 12:57 BST (UK) »

There's a burial in the Berkshire Burial Index for a Rachel Belcher on 31 March 1788 at Pusey All Saints - about 4 miles from West Hanney.

With it being in that Jan- Mar period from the old calendar, someone could easily have transcribed it as 1789.

Perhaps Pusey might be where she was married also? Unfortunately, Pusey doesn't appear to be on the IGI.

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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 14:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill,
Thanks for that info.
I'll have to try and check it out but not being on the I.G .I. makes it a little harder

Alan
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 15:08 BST (UK) »

I thought you might be interested in these burials also from Pusey:

Rachel Belcher 26 Apr 1791  infant
Susannah Belcher 18 Nov 1786 infant

and this one from West Hanney:

James Belcher  9 Feb 1837 age 80

Perhaps it might be worth requesting Berks FHS to do you a look up for the missing marriage - I can't remember off the top of my head how much it costs, but it's very reasonable.

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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 10:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill,
The info on James Belcher's burial is very interesting as it ties in with
my records so to does your info on Rachel's  burial in 1788.

Its looking more than likely that it is Pusey and not West Hanney as the parish.

As you  have a burial index -do you also have any other transcripts for Pusey please?

If not,  I might ask the  question on R/C and if there is no luck, will consider buying the CD from the OFHS. The Berks FHS does not appear to have marriage index which covers Pusey  nor also  registers for this parish.

Thanks for your help all the same.

Alan


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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 11:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Alan,

Sorry - no, I don't have any other Pusey PRs, just the Berks Burial Index.

You're right - Berks FHS don't appear to have Pusey on their marriage database yet. I hadn't realised Pusey was one of those parishes covered by Oxon FHS, so I'd definetly recommend you to post a request on the Oxon board for a look up for the marriage - I'd be surprised if no one has that particular CD.

Good luck.

Jill
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John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 12:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill,
Many thanks for your help.

Have posted a fresh lookup for Pusey - hoping !!

Alan
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 12:30 BST (UK) »

Have the Pusey PRs.

Rachel's burial was 31 Mar 1788/89.

The infant Susannah and Rachel do not belong to James and Rachel, being daughters of Henry and Mary BELCHER. Mary was buried Feb 13 1791, as wife of Henry. Henry buried Jun 8 1802.

Susannah bapt Sept 3 1786
William bapt Dec 25 1787
Rachel bapt Nov 15 1789

No children to James at Pusey.

No BELCHER marriages at Pusey either.

Henry BELCHER married Mary BEENHAM, Nov 29 1783, at Charney Bassett.

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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 12:45 BST (UK) »

Hello Eyesee,
Very grateful to you for looking thru the Pusey registers.
I thought I might have been onto something useful but its not to be.
It seems strange that the info I was given with firm dates listed West Hanney
as the parish but I have the fiche for this location and there is no record I can see
of  their marriage..
Will have to search around some more.

many thanks

Alan
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 15:06 BST (UK) »

Ta! da! I think!

St Mary le More, Wallingford PRs (Oxon FHS CD):-

" 1785

Jan 11 1784 (probably mistake)
BELCHER James  bach otp
MATTHEWS X Rachel    banns

Witness: Robert X Belcher only"

I've quoted the entry as it appears on the CD, as it seems to be under 1785 but dated 1784.

I think I need a lie down now!  Grin

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Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 15:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill,

I think you have it !!! Shocked

Many thanks - go have a glass of sherry then a lie down.

Thank you - as its late where I am I too will have a sleep

Alan Grin
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Re: marriage lookup for James Belcher
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 21:21 BST (UK) »

The double date business concerning Jan, Feb and Mar finished in 1752, so it should be one or the other.

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