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GERMANY ?: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« on: Tuesday 01 April 08 19:47 BST (UK) »

OK cryptic title but I don't know whether my ancestor was from Germany or another German speaking country ... yet.

Johan Michael Mayer married in St Marys Newington in 1809.  Initially he is down on the baptism entries as a Sugar Baker (like so many German immigrants) but later on he is listed as a Violin & Harp String Maker.  He died in February 1837 in Southwark.  I understand from information provided that there are other citations of him as a string maker which would tend to suggest this was his profession before moving to England as I would have thought it would have required an apprenticeship?!  I haven't found yet any other Meyers who were this profession.  As for being a Sugar Baker, the Ango-German FHS went I told them about this hadn't at that stage come across any sugar bakers in that area of London but being so close to the river, its possible in may have crossed to Middlesex for work ...

Are there any centres within Germany etc which were more renowned for such a profession than others?  Any such records of apprenticeship or similiar which survive please?  It is very much a needle in a haystack so to speak unfortunately. 

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Nicola
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Re: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 20:43 BST (UK) »

Nicola.
I have a copy of an old book at home, called 'Universal Dictionary of Violin and Bow Makers. It comes in several volumes, but sadly my volume only goes about a third of the way through the alphabet, so Meyer is not a name listed.
It has names of violin and bow makers from all over the world, famous, and not so famous, AND gives details such as dates, place of birth, aprrenticeships,etc, etc. String makers may be included.
I looked on abebooks to see if it listed there, but it isn't. I do know they had another volume in the shop at the time, but whether it is still there I cannot say. (St.Mary's Books and Prints, Stamford, Lincolnshire email: orders [---at---] stmarysbooks.com
You might find a copy at one of the bigger libraries, or your own library might be able to get hold of it for you. (Perhaps a library with a music library  might help).

Universal Dictionary of Violin and Bow Makers by William Henley - first edition 1960
Published by Amati Publishing Ltd.

Hope this helps you track him down. Good luck.
Kind regards,
Paulene Smiley

If anyone does need any information, and I can help (my volumes goes from Corani to Guarnerius), I am only too happy to assist:)



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Re: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 21:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Willow

Thanks for that.  A quick google suggests its a little too expensive to purchase.  I've tried Birmingham Library catalogue and while they have it listed, there aren't any copies in there so I'll have to pop in and see whether they can get it via inter-library loan.  At least if there were some Meyer/Mayer entries it would give me somewhere to start since professions did often run in families.

Nicola
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Re: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 April 08 21:49 BST (UK) »

Nicola,
Glad it's of some help. When I get a chance I'll have a flick through the one I've got, just to see if I can find a common area for the German makers.
I'll get back to you if I do.
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Re: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 16:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Nicola,

Sugar baker as a profession also ran in families.

One of many longshots: study the entries for MAYER, MEYER, MAIER, MEIER, and even MAJER and MEJER
(yes, it's one of those kind of names  Grin ) in the sugar bakers database here.

Maybe some of the names will be familiar, or fit in with other oral history.

http://www.mawer.clara.net/history.html  -> database

Even if you don't find anybody you know, there is a lot of background history on this site.

Have you looked in the Naturalisation records at Kew ??
Check out some of these topics
Topic: RootsChat Topics - Naturalisation and Internment
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,157691.0.html

good luck,
Bob
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Re: GERMANY ?: Violin & Harp String Makers - MEYER
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 17:20 BST (UK) »

Hi Bob

Thanks for that.  Unfortunately the Naturalisation Records are too late, Johan Michael Meyer died in 1837 and they don't start until 1844.  Chances are he probably wouldn't have done anyway.

Fair point about Sugar Bakers, I just would have imagined that some sort of apprenticeship training (however informal within the family even) would have been required for Violin and Harp String Maker so I still think this may be the better line to follow.  Shame you can't search against professions on ancestry for the census, be interesting to see how many more used this as a job description.  I will however check out the Sugar Baker database, although I know when I originally submitted him to it that they'd not come across any others south of the Thames.

Nicola
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