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Topic: COMPLETED THANK YOU TAS lookup RIDGWAY (Read 1492 times)
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tristiw
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Hi,
could somebody please look up the birth of OLIVER RIDGWAY. Apparently born Hobart about 1886.
If you want to know the story behind this request, go to:
http://missingevelyn.wordpress.com
cheers, Tristi
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Shari
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Hi Tristi,
Found this on Oliver RIDG(E)WAY, spelt with an (E)
born March 14, 1885 REG NO. 192/1885
Launceston, Tasmania
Parents
William RIDGEWAY
& Sarah ROSSITER
Cheers
Shari
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tristiw
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Thank you so much!!!
I'm not sure how the Tasmanian BDM indexes work...but in Victoria you can do a search with those parents and find siblings. Can you do that in TAS? If so, can you do a search for William's kids. Might be spelt without an E.
Don't forget to look at:
http://missingevelyn.wordpress.com
Tristi
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tristiw
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Shari, do you have access to Deaths too? Can you check for the Death of any of those people? Also, can I do anything for you...if you have any ancestors buried in East Gippsland, Victoria I'll go and look in the cemetery for you.
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Shari
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The only death I have found for RIDGEWAY is for William George, he died January 1, 1825 Rocky Boat Harbour, Tasmania.
This may not be the same William as yours, I will check this out for you and get back to you.
Thank you for your kind offer to help with my research but I have no rellies in the Gippsland area.
Shari
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tristiw
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Bill must have had too much fun on new year's eve. I don't think it's the same William...bugger. Thanks anyway. I'm going to label this as completed now. You've done a great job.
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tristiw
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Hi,
to add to this request:
Please check birth of Lily Ridgway (maybe with an e) 24/ 12/1886.
Deaths of any of the following Ridgways:
* Oliver b1885 Launceston
* Ellen b1881 nee Parsons
* Evelyn b1910 Taunton%
* William Frank b1893 Collingwood %
* Sarah b1865 West Monkton nee Rossiter %remarriage
* Samuel (Oliver's grandfather) b Devon
* Olive b1909 taunton %
* Bessie b1908 taunton %
(The last two may or may not be related)
Any marriages of % people
Thank you in advance you wonderful people
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jeenie
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Hi,
could somebody please look up the birth of OLIVER RIDGWAY. Apparently born Hobart about 1886.
I'm not sure how the Tasmanian BDM indexes work...but in Victoria you can do a search with those parents and find siblings. Can you do that in TAS? If so, can you do a search for William's kids. Might be spelt without an E.
This is a reference, Tristi - try entering (just) ridgeway ie, with an E :
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8
for these results :
TASP Family Name Given Names Date of Birth Other/Married Names
431253 RIDGEWAY JOHN 1807
431254 RIDGEWAY OLIVER 1885
431255 RIDGEWAY WILLIAM
followed by :
RIDGEWAY, OLIVER
Gender: Male
Birth 1885 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship:
Death:
FAMILY INFORMATION
Siblings: 431264 RIDGWAY LILY 1886
followed by:
Gender: Female
Birth 1886 - HOBART,Tasmania
Marriage/Relationship:
Death:
FAMILY INFORMATION
Siblings: 431254 RIDGEWAY OLIVER 1885
and then :
RIDGEWAY, WILLIAM
Gender: Male
Birth
Marriage/Relationship: 1885 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania ( ROSSITER, SARAH )
Its good to back closer to home, where one understands a little more about what one is doing - but still not up there with the expert experienced volunteers !
    
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tristiw
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Thanks for that Jeenie...I had actually been to that site but didn't think to search for the Ridgeway variant (der).
It says on the site that the database is incomplete and links families in the 19th century. A pretty good start - but i think most of the people on my list would have had their 'events' in TAS in the 20th century. I wonder if there's a BDM index covering that period of time...there is for VIC, (3 separate databases in fact).
I still think TAS is a pretty good chance for wherever the Ridgways ended up...there's lots of 10 pound poms there.
Thanks so much, Tristi
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jeenie
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Hello again, Tristi. I shall quote from you :
"I am a member of a number of Online Communities (as an IT professional), and they just don't work the same way as RootsChat does. So I've been tending to behave in a way that is appropriate for other online forums, but maybe not RootsChat. I also suspect I'm going to continue to rub people up the wrong way until I have enough experience to instinctively know the best way of going about things."
Presumably you mean pithy, down to earth, call a spade a spade (if not a shovel), call it as it is; cf ultra politeness. I'm afraid I have the same problem, on rc. (eg, Like an Aussie saying "where the bl..dy hell are you", heaven forbid.)
So, for the moment, lets discuss like IT people. 1st, "as an IT professional" I am amazed that you didn't lookup Oliver Ridgeway, with the E derivative, when you went into the Tas site. (but everyone has a bad day - understandable). But you said, at the start, you were interested in Oliver, and any siblings. In IT it is stating the obvious that in Systems Analysis/Design/Programming et al one requires considerable empathy to draw out from the User what (s)he actually wants (otherwise u get "The computer made an error", "It was the Computer's fault"); and to detail it in writing. On the Tas site are reference numbers that permit you to order further details from their Archives, but one did not know that you had already been into the site, and knew about this. (And trying to do a quick lookup, as a special peace offering, I was late for an appointment.) And then, you were really interested in people in the 20th century anyway. So lets finish calling a spade a spade, and continue as "normal" people - and for any rc people "listening", this is an discussion of IT, bewteen those of an IT background. (And not from northern Aussieland.)
[As per normal rc,] there just wasn't time to respond more fully earlier. You may already know this, that each State has produced disks containing all BDM records registered up to a certain cut off date (determined primarily by their own Privacy Regulations). Your own local Library may have any or none of these, but most likely at least those of your own State. Many of the experienced voluteers have copies also on their own PCs. The Tassie ones differ inasmuch as there are 2 or 3 additional disks containing additional data of a sort not found on the others, and you may be lucky to find just that little bit of further info. The central Library in Adelaide has all these, certainly (one would think) the central Library in Melbourne, and maybe your own Library. But telling you this might belike telling you how to suck eggs. One really doesn't know. A fair cow, actually. (as Aussies, of a certain age, say.)
Just on the offchance, went into SA Deaths (until 1915) for Oliver and Lily, but of course they weren't there.
And some, different unrelated families, of my ancestors went to Tas early 1800s, then came here eg, one family in 1839.
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tristiw
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Jeenie,
thanks for all your help on this, I do appreciate all the help I can get.
I can't remember when I went to the TAS site, but I really didn't use it as well as you did, because I didn't even find the page you linked to in your previous post. I think I must have gone to each category in the left hand navigation bar and done separate searches. I remember doing it quickly whilst the baby was napping. Then I read about it being incomplete (I didn't realise which century until you posted your searches and I double checked) and I assumed it was too incomplete to worry about for quick searches. (There's a lot of stuff on the genealogylinks.com page)
I should have asked people to look up a bdm index (and I should have put a link to previous posts...I was kicking myself worring about that after I went to bed last night - I really should stop doing it late at night) - but i really wasn't sure it existed in TAS until you just told me. I'm glad it does, and I assume that that's what Shari used to answer my original request about Oliver. I also didn't know that most indexes worked the same way (one would assume they do, though I've had lots of unfounded assumptions on rc). I only have personal experience with some VIC indexes, which I've borrowed from my mum. (If you want me to look anything up...let me know)
I would love my local library to have a family history centre...but I live in the stix and unfortunately I have to drive and hour and half to get to the nearest one. Hopefully I'll get down there soon and I'll have a big list to look up if I can. I'm anticipating on checking every index in just about every state for Oliver's death between 1901 and present (if the data is there) - so it would certainly help if someone with the indexes was able to provide a few shortcuts. That's why the original request was just for Oliver's birth, as I had a rough idea of some of the details.
Tonight I'm going to draw up a checklist of the indexes that have been checked for Oliver and Evelyn, with some details (e.g. dates checked etc). It will appear soon on the blog so there's not a million willing volunteers re-checking all at the same time. I need this for my own sanity - as I have just discovered that I've already checked some things myself more than once.
And now I'm going to thank you once again and put a link to the other threads for this family (before I forget)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,283763.0.html
http://missingevelyn.wordpress.com
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,295637.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,297944.0.html
Cheers, Tristi
PS, where did you find the SA data? Was it on an index disk in your possession, or is there an online source i haven't found yet?
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jeenie
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Actually, I'm about to have lunch, Tristi, so I shall answer this quickly. Hope nothing is missed.
You will have to read the Tas Archive site carefully, but as I understand it anything with a reference number can be ordered. But I wouldn't have any idea what would be on the delivered detail. And it is not free. We have just ordered data for a suspected convict ancestor, and the waiting time is 6 weeks. (Actually, that word again, ones who hold bdm data don't necessarily advertise, unless they particularly want to provide the service to all, so they don't get swamped with requests. Thank you for your personal offer.) And it is entirely understandable if anyone lives far from 'public service utilities', for lack of a better 'word'. And don't for get that there loads of volunteers just champing to help, and it is hardly fair to deprive them (joke, Maude). Actually (?) I did (sorry about that) for interest check your previous posts, and I don't think there was/were any relevant to refer back to. And don't get yourself in a stew over it. (Also, don't put in a lot of cross references, none at all would often be appropriate, just look at your posting from the point of view of the recipient; and wherever it is possible that it might cause unnecessary work. Any unneccesary clutter will put people off - look who's talking.) So, I particularly mentioned the Tas data disks because, for those volunteers who would have a copy, I don't know it they would have the additional disks. You see, all of them are not cheap. On the other hand, don't expect much of them - there is not much there. But may be (?) But, in particular, if travelling far to a remote Library, perhaps ring them up first and ask what do they have ? eg, on their computer(s) - and, another thing, there is a Biographical Index of South Australians BISA if you ever have the need, which some volunteers have (not us), and possibly your 'local' library. Vic, NSW, Qld, and WA have different BDM records on line now, but I don't have time right now to look up the references for you. NSW records are fairly minimal, the date being when the event was registered, not occured, and you can order Certificates. Vic enquiries are fairly basic, but you can order certificates on line. Also, they contain a lot of data. The data (Digger) disks I refer to are pretty good, but (usually) don't contain the same detail as the Certificates - I say this, because SA Certificates in particular, particularly the very early ones, contain very little. ie, if you have ancestors in SA, you hope they went to the Vic Golfdfields and had a child registered there ! You definitely won't get bdm records up to the present off the Digger disks, being copied from the Official State Registries, because of State Privacy regulations. (SA has deaths up to 1970 - but not us.) But there are other means, on line also, but we really don't know about the other States. Go ahead and post the query re Oliver. Some one in each State will answer, and maybe someone will have the data for all States. For someone to have close access to a Library, which has a wide range of this 'stuff', it can be quicker to list what you want and look it up yourself - and you can do it interactively, one thing leading to another. But for someone without such access, rc is probably earier. And it appears that at least the occasional person creates their whole family tree by putting queries on rc, which others look up for them. As I infer, we find it easier quicker to do it ourselves, but only because we have reasonable access to the central Adelaide Library, and our local Library with less facilities. This was meant to be brief - and I still have to have lunch !
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