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perry (help)
« on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:28 BST (UK) »
i am looking for john perry d.o.b 1893  died 2nd march 1965 and his pere,nts born prob castleford west yorkshire i have found a john w perry but theres no w on headstone. i have looked in 1901 census but could not find him i would be greatfull for a little help if anyone could point me in the right direction would love to hear from them thank you
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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:32 BST (UK) »
there's dozens of candidates in 1901.

if his DOB came from a death certificate you would have to factor in an error on the part of the informant.
Did he later marry/die  in Castleford, or does that geography relate to another member of his family?

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:34 BST (UK) »

How about the John perry b 1892 Durham, a grandson in normanton 1901?
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:38 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

John was 73 when he died in 1965 in Hemsworth reg district which means his birth year could have been between March 1891 - March 1892 dependant on the month he was born

If you know who he married - a copy of his marriage cert will at least give you his fathers name which may help to trace him on the 1901 census

Did he have any siblings that you know of - names and ages may help trace the right 1901 entry
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:43 BST (UK) »
The 1901 PRO index has a John Perry aged 9 b America living in Hunslet but I can't find him on Ancestry 1901

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:14 BST (UK) »
john perry had  a wife called Isabella maiden name unknown he had 3 sons Stanley, john DOB 1914,and, George who died of war wounds in 1946, DOB 1921 i wonder if i send for the birth cert for john Jr his fathers full name would be on it failing that i am scratching my head again Undecided thank you all your help is most appreciated
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

You would get more information by getting his marriage cert but you may have to buy one of his childrens birth cert to find Isabella's maiden name
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:29 BST (UK) »
I have checked the full GRO index for 1914 and there is no Stanley Perry b Yorkshire
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:33 BST (UK) »
carole it was john perry jr who was born 1914 not stanley sorry if i got my wires crossed
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:37 BST (UK) »
Freebmd has these marriages

Marriages Dec 1913 

Perry  John  to Isabella Tolson  Wakefield  9c 49   

Marriages Sep 1914 

Perry  John T  to Isabella Hare  Sculcoates  9d 419


Births Sep 1914   

Perry  John  mothers maiden name Tolson  Pontefract  9c 340
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:57 BST (UK) »
yippeee carole you are a gem, its the top  marriage; john perry to  issabella tulson i recognise the d.o.b of john jr hes my father but i forgot his date of birth untill you brought it up, i new it was 1914 but for the life of me i couldnt remember the month i would buy you a big bunch of flowers i am over the moon thank you.if you could look up johns or isabellas father and  mother  i would be eternaly greatfull, if i am not being to cheekie, thank you again   Kiss Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 April 08 19:59 BST (UK) »
John is a problem as there are too many possibilities so you need to buy a copy of his marriage cert to get his fathers name and occupation. 

I will have a look for Isabella for you
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 April 08 20:06 BST (UK) »
thank you i will get his wedding cert, you have put a smile on my face Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 April 08 21:11 BST (UK) »
In December 2005, somebody has notified a surname correction to Ancestry on a 1901 entry that was transcribed as Jobson but which the notifier says should be Tolson

It suggests somebody else is researching this family

Although there are a few Isabella Tolson's, given Johns birthyear and the Yorkshire connection, I think this is the likeliest but the marriage cert will confirm her fathers name

I can't make out the actual address but the district was Ossett
and they were all b Ossett

Wilson Tolson probably 50 but transcribed as 30 - contractor builder
Mary 48
Richard 22
Arthur  20
Samuel H  17
Fred H  13 
Henry H   13 
Isabella H   11 
Levi   10 
Hezrah Marshall 26 boarder b Scarborough
Emma Cawthorn E 13 niece


Births Jun 1889

Tolson  Isabella Horton    Dewsbury  9b 711

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 April 08 21:40 BST (UK) »
1891 is indexed as Lolson - all b Ossett

Wilson Tolson 40 mason builder
Mary 38
Richard 12
Arthur 10
Samuel H 7
Fred H 5
Henry 5
Isabella H 2
Levi 2months
Ann M Horton 32 unmarried sister in law b Kirkham Gate
RG12; Piece: 3738; Folio 125; Page 54

Wilson Tolson m Mary Horton March qtr 1878 Dewsbury v9b P802
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