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PAKES family circa 1800
« on: Friday 04 April 08 12:36 BST (UK) »

HI can anyone help with information re the Pakes family from Luton, have a William born 1811 to Samuel and Anne. Any information regarding the Pakes family would be much appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 April 08 12:46 BST (UK) »

Just to clarify, were the family living in St mary's, luton? I have found an entry for William Frederick Pakes in July 1811, but he wasnt baptised until November 06 1825, aged 14, acording to the IGI?

Is this your family?
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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 April 08 12:57 BST (UK) »

Hi, yes that's the one, it's actually brother in laws family I'm looking at, have William Frederick born June 1811, bapt. 1825, but nothing prior to that. Nor much later than that if truth be told.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 April 08 12:59 BST (UK) »

Okie dokie Steve, I found some more kids of Samuel and Anne, but as they are member submitted, take them with a pinch of salt. Also, they are baptism records, not birth, so not necessarily year of birth.
Will post them in a few minutes! Have acciddentally shut the window with their details on!

How clever of me Grin

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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 April 08 13:06 BST (UK) »

Hi again Steve. As afar as I know, these are the siblings of William Frederick Pakes. Remember, these are baptisms, not birth dates, unless stated so.

GEORGE PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 DEC 1827 St Mary'S, Luton, Bedford, England

CHARLES PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 NOV 1835 Saint Mary, Luton, Bedford, England

CHARLES PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 OCT 1836 Saint Mary, Luton, Bedford, England

EMILY PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 AUG 1815

EMILY PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 1827 Saint Mary, Luton, Bedford, England

CHARLOTTE PAKES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 DEC 1827 St Mary'S, Luton, Bedford, England.

Will see if I can dig anything up for you.

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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 April 08 13:19 BST (UK) »

There doesnt seem to be alot out there on the Pakes. Maybe if you put Will's siblings into genesreunited, you may find a few cousins that can take you back further. Has your brother-in-law thought about going to visit the church in St Mary's, from what the photos show, its quite a nice church!! Plus, you may find a few Pakes headstones in there too!!

I will let you know if I find anything else, pronto!!

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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 April 08 14:22 BST (UK) »

Burials in Luton

23 Feb 1830 Samuel Peaks age 53
23 Sep 1838 Samuel Pakes age 31
7 Dec 1846 Henry Pakes age 24
23 Mar 1848 Thomas Pakes age 27
22 Oct 1849 James Pakes age 43
8 Mar 1851 Ann Pakes age 70

In 1841 Ann Pecks 60 shown as not born in Beds

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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 April 08 07:51 BST (UK) »

Thanks Matt, not come across Charles before have you any idea where he came from?
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 April 08 07:54 BST (UK) »

Thanks David for the burial information, can you say where it came from. Any other information at all on Pakes you have would be greatly appreciated,

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 April 08 08:29 BST (UK) »

Hey Steve,

All I can see is that Charles was born 1835 in the same parish as our William. Will try and see if I can get any more on the family later on, as I am off to work now.
Ciao for now!

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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 April 08 23:39 BST (UK) »

Charles Pakes spent some time in the County Gaol [aged 18 in 1854]....also a Robert Pakes [aged 17 in 1861]

You will find them on the ''Bedford Gaol'' site which is online - too early for photos though  Sad

If you google ''Blars ad lib'' you will find Beds Archives search site & that may be worth a look?

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Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 April 08 11:17 BST (UK) »

Hey Cathy, wasnt the Gaol a prison system??
Or is my knowledge of history limited?
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Durham: Reay, Dixon, Corkin.
Northumberland: Thompson, Turnbull, Peel, Reay, Stothard/Stoddart.
Gloucestershire: Wertheim (Jewish) , Howell, Lile/Lyle/Liles, Davis, Berrow.
Bristol: Westcott, Bayley.
Sufffolk: Fisher, Flatman, Baker, Smith.
Fife: Herd, Pearson, Moyes.
Lanarkshire: Russell, Millar, McDonald, O'Hara, McCartney, McGill/Magill.
Whitburn: Millar, Bryce.
Ireland: Owens and Fox (Tyrone), Hughes, Quinn, McCartney, O'Brien.
Glamorgan: Howell, Griffiths, Wertheim, Edwards.
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 08 12:53 BST (UK) »

Yes. a lister mentioned Charles PAKES and I think that is him in prison but photos started in the 1860s of prisoners so he missed out.

It is worth taking a look at the site

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Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]
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Re: PAKES family circa 1800
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 April 08 11:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Cathy, interesting item about Charles Pake, not sure if he's related or not yet but thank you anyway.
regards
Steve
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