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1851/61 census - Wells *Completed with Thanks*
« on: Friday 04 April 08 16:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I am trying to find the family of Elizabeth Wells born Stafford 2 July 1848

IGI Batch C010223 has a christening at St. Mary's, Stafford, 14 July 1848 parents: Henry Charles & Mary Ann Wells

The same batch also has Charles Wells, 4 April 1847
Parents: Henry Chales (sic) & Mary Ann Wells

and, intriguingly, the following children:

Maria Caroline Wells 27 April 1853
Henry William Wells 27 May1854
Louisa Ann Wells 14 January 1857
Alice Margaret Wells 10 February 1858
Parents: Henry Charles & Caroline Maria Wells

So I wondered if perhaps Mary Ann died between 1848 - 1853 and Henry remarried to a Caroline Maria. On that theory I have found the following:

Marriage Q1 1846
Mary Anne Adams to Henry Wells Stone XVII 221
StaffsBMD Place: Fulford, St Nicholas, Register: Stafford

Death Q2 1851
Mary Ann Wells Penkridge XVII 93
no trace on StaffsBMD

Marriage Q2 1852
Caroline Maria Jaggard to Henry Charles Wells Lichfield 6b 397
StaffsBMD Place: Hamstall Ridgware, St Michael & All Angel's, Register: Lichfield

So it could all be possible, though the death and marriage places seem at odds with the christenings all being in the same place.

I am hoping that the 1851/1861 census info can confirm or deny this and throw more light on Elizabeth's family for me.

Thanks for reading,
Ian
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:22 UTC (UK) »

HO107/2016/14/21 Staffs Bednall
Elizabeth Adams head mar 64 farmer  200 acres emp 4 lab bStaffs .Walton Willows
Mary anne Wells daur mar 35                                          b.Staffs Longton Potteries
Elizabeth Wells grandaur     2                                          b.Staffs Stafford

+ servants
Elizabeth Manuel serv U housesevant b.Portsmouth
Matilda Bradshaw serv wid 54   do      b. Cheshire
Ellen bett               serv U  17    do     b.Staffs Ingestre
John Askey            serv  mar 61 ag lab b.Staffs Hartley Green
William Adams       serv   U   18    do   b.Dunstan Heath
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Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James
 Longton  Stoke on trent Staffs.
Scholes.Collinge
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Gogerty.Deavonporte
Salop.
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:25 UTC (UK) »

1861 RG9/1956/9/6

Uttoxeter Rd. Abbots Bromley. Staffordshire

Henry Charles Wells h.m. 42 Druggist b   Middx Hampstead
Caroline Maria wife 30 B Staff  Hempstall Ridware ?
Maria Caroline dau 8  b                       "
Alice Margaret 3                                   "
Louisa Ann dau 4                                 "
Frederick George son 1 month. B Abbots Bromley.

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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Yonder,
Thanks for the lookup, certainly seems to be my Elizabeth, no Charles but I have found a possible death:
Q3 1848
Charles Wells Stafford XVII 96

I wonder where Henry was?

Patrish,
Thanks for the lookup, no trace of Elizabeth so maybe the two families aren't related, unless Henry can be found on the 1851 census with a birthplace of Middlesex

Thanks for all the work people,
Ian
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:46 UTC (UK) »

1861 no Mary Anne
Lichfield st Stafford Castle Church RG9/1908/92/15
Elizabeth Adams 76 wid proprieter of houses b.Staffs Stone
sarah Buttery sev 14                                    b. do Rannich
Elizabeth wells   grandaur 12                       b.Stafford

Bednall is Penkridge reg dist by the way so the death might be correct
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 Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent.
Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James
 Longton  Stoke on trent Staffs.
Scholes.Collinge
 Middleton Lancs.
Gogerty.Deavonporte
Salop.
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:53 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Yonder,

so Henry Charles on the 1851 census is my next quest... any suggestions on finding him?

Ian
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 April 08 16:54 UTC (UK) »

1851
10 Market Square Stafford St Mary HO107/1999/185/9
Charles Dawson head wid 67 Druggist bStaffs Uttoxeter
Henry Wells Partner mar 34  do       b.Middx Hampstead
Joseph Daws           U    22   do apprentice b.Monmouthshire
John Martin    serv           15 Apprentice b.Cheshire
Edward Riber   do            18     do
Mary Ford        do   U      24 house servant b.Stafford     
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Ridgway.  
 Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent.
Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James
 Longton  Stoke on trent Staffs.
Scholes.Collinge
 Middleton Lancs.
Gogerty.Deavonporte
Salop.
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 April 08 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Yonder,
you're a star!! so it could all well tie together, odd that all the christenings are in Stafford but hey!! what do I know  Wink

Thanks for your work, much appreciated
Ian
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 April 08 17:27 UTC (UK) »

Maria and Alice Birthplace is Stafford in 1871
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Ridgway.  
 Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent.
Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James
 Longton  Stoke on trent Staffs.
Scholes.Collinge
 Middleton Lancs.
Gogerty.Deavonporte
Salop.
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells *Completed with Thanks*
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:56 UTC (UK) »

Dear Ian/Dragonchylde,

Did you get any further with Henry Charles Wells, chemist/druggist of Stafford? I am researching him and we may have information to swap if it is that branch of the Wellses you are looking into.

Kind regards,

Mark
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells *Completed with Thanks*
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mark,

Yes, following the information I received here I managed to get much further with the Wells side of my tree including finding a few more researchers looking into this family.

I currently have identified Henry's Parents - Henry Wells and Maria Dawson and his maternal grandparents - John Dawson and Elizabeth Green, a link to the Rugeley Poisoner and many family members not included in this thread.

I also have some possibilities for the Wells side of the tree that I have yet to confirm.

Elizabeth Wells (1848) is one of my maternal GGGrandparents so I am very interested in taking this branch of my tree further. What information do you have? PM me your email addy if you would like to continue by email.

Regards,
Ian
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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells *Completed with Thanks*
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 March 09 17:28 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, Ian, it's

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Re: 1851/61 census - Wells *Completed with Thanks*
« Reply #12 on: Friday 07 August 09 16:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mark

I am also researching Henry Charles Wells and have quite a bit of information.  Could we discuss?  My connection is that he and his third wife Caroline were my great great grand parents.  What is your connection?

Thanks

Trish
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