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Tricia_2
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I'm trying to sort out my Cole ancestors from Kings Heath.
Lots of relatives ~ Cole & Sarjant ~ lived there from around the turn of the last century, but I don't know when the Coles arrived or where they came from.
(The Sarjants lived in Aston)
I'll post the info I have.
Could anyone offer any suggestions as to where to go from here, please??
I have been looking at freebmd, the IGI, the census, any more ideas?
Thanks in anticipation!
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Rose Cole was my gt grandmother, who was born around 1887.
Her daughter, Lucy Cole, was born Feb 21 1905 ~ I believe in Kings Heath ~ registered under Kings Norton
Rose Cole married George Alfred Sarjant ~ 1911 in Kings Heath.
George Alfred Sarjant was born about 1887 ~ family from Aston area of Birmingham.
Some Rootschatters found them on the 1901 census for me.
They settled in Kings Heath.
Rose & George's sons: George Alfred, Sidney John, Albert (may have died very young)
Rose & George's daughters included Florence, who died shortly after birth in 1922
Rose's brother's: Ernest John, Percy, Thomas (killed in WW1)
Rose's sisters: Em; Rye Florence.
George's brother was Sidney
George's sister was Lilian
Ernest John Cole married Lilian Sarjant ~ 1915 in Aston (brother & sister married sister & brother)
Rose's mother was Lucy
I understand that Rose's mother's sister was Polly
I was told that they might have been from Beoley
Sidney, George & Lilian Sarjant are on the 1901 census living in New Town Row, Aston / Birmingham with George and Emma Sarjant.
There are Coles in the Kings Norton district before this time, but I don't know if they are connected. They seem to be mainly in Northfield, but some in Selly Oak.
Kings Heath was just turning from countryside to Birmingham suburb.
Various pet names seem to have been used by the family.
I'd be grateful just for some ideas! 
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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smudwhisk
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Hi Tricia_2
Kings Norton Registration District doesn't cover Kings Heath I'm afraid. At the time your grandmother was born it covered Balsall Heath, Beoley, Edgbaston, Harborne, Kings Norton, Northfield, and Smethwick according to http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/kings%20norton.html.
Nicola
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smudwhisk
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1901 census - Coventry
Rose Cole - 16 yrs born Warwick - looks like a domestic servant.
1871 census - Worcester All Saints
Frederick Cole - 22 yrs labourer, born Powick Worcestershire
Lucy Cole - 18 yrs glovess, born All Saints Worcester
Mary Cole - 60 yrs widow Charwoman born [well it looks like] Wittington, Worcestershire [possibly a relation but doesn't look like Frederick's mother]
All down as Lodgers.
1861 Census - Powick, Worcestershire
John Cole 46 yrs widower agricultural labourer, born Powick
Frederick Cole son 12 yrs agricultural labourer, born Powick
Marianne Cole daughter 10 yrs scholar, born Powick
Sarah Cole sister [of John] 53yrs glovess born Newland, Worcestershire
1851 census - Powick, Worcestershire
John Cole 36 yrs head agricultural labourer born Powick
Matilda Cole 25 years born Herefordshire [can't recognise the place name]
Frederick Cole 2 yrs born Powick
Not Known female Cole 1 day born Powick
Susan Cole Mother widow 74 yrs nurse born Newlands
There's a marriage in Dec 1848 of a John Cole in Worcester Registration District, one of the possible wives is a Matilda Elton. However as Matilda is down as from Herefordshire I think you need to trace back via certificates to confirm what Frederick's mother's name was.
Can't trace John in 1841 but on that census in Powick:
Sushan Cole 55 yrs
Sarah Cole 30 yrs
James Cole 25 yrs agricultural labourer
Probable siblings I would imagine.
You are welcome to copies of the census entries.
Food for thought, it may be worth you getting a copy of your Rose's daughter's birth certificate to see if its Rose's parents address from 1901 census. Chances are it could be. It may also be worth you getting her marriage certificate (if you don't already have it) to confirm her father is John. Can't find a birth on FreeBMD yet but the names from the census entries seem to tie in and suggest that is your Rose and her family.
Good luck
Nicola
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Tricia_2
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Nicola ~ thank you so much. I'll print it all off and study it. Certainly names and dates do look very, very promising! 
My grandmother thought that her mother, or grandmother, came from Beoley, but it looks as if they moved around quite a bit, so they could have lived there for a while.
Kings Heath was considered part of Kings Norton early in the century, so I think that still fits ok.
I have ordered Rose's marriage certificate ~ looking forward to seeing that.
I think I may have my grandmother's birth certificate ~ I'll check.
I'm going to have a good read ~ thank you so much for your generosity!
I am really very grateful and will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!
And I hope that I'll be able to help you at some stage.
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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