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Aussie_Jack
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Albert John Ward (1878-1934)
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I was wondering if anyone would be able to help.
Francis Harris was born about 1819 in Devonshire
Father: Francis Harris
Mother: Mary Paul
Unforntunately this all I know about this family. I am uncertain if Francis Harris (jnr), was sent to Australia as a convict or left England as free settler.
Francis Harris was already in Australia, by 1846 which was when he married in Goulburn NSW. So he would have come (or sent) to Australia sometime between 1830 - 1846.
I don;t this his parents came to Australia, and wouldn't know if there were other children.
Here in Australia he defiantly a mystery. There are Harris' in shipping records and convict records, but doesn't match this guy.
Maybe there's not enough info to go on, to search in Devon, though any possible help will be appreciated
Jack - Australia
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Ward (Sussex), Collins (Lincolnshire), Paten (Buckinghamshire), Roffe (Tunbridge), Reece (Sussex), Harris (Devonshire)
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deb usa
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Hi Jack
On IGI there are these extracted records;
Christenings in North Molton, Devon children of Francis Harris and mary
Mary Harris ~ 17 Feb 1811
Henry Harris~ 13 Nov 1814
James Harris~ 12 Jan 1817
FRANCIS HARRIS ~ 24 jan 1819
John Harris ~ 3 dec 1820
marriage;
Francis Harris = Mary Paul
1 April 1810
North Molton
I will try to find them in 1841
deb 
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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Hi Jack
Do you have his marriage cert? what kind of occupation did he have ...? That may help trace his parents and siblings ....
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Aussie_Jack
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Hi Deb
I don't have his marriage certificate, although - when he died in 1892, there were things written up about him, that he had a general store, ran a post office, and also was a licensee of Hotel - this was all between 1860 - 1880's.
Whatever his occupation was at the time of marriage is unknown. . . .
Jack
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deb usa
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Hi again
I think I have found henry Harris b 1814, North Molton
1851
North Molton
Radworthy
Henry Harris head mar 36 ag lab
Ann wife 31
Ann dau 6
Mary dau 3 months
Mary Ann Hodge visitor 18 dressmaker
all born North Molton, Devon
Henry Harris married Ann Hodge
Mar q 1842, south Molton
so it looks like he stayed 
will try to find Francis ....
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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krisesjoint
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Hi Jack,
No help with the immigration - I haven't had any luck from UK end I am afraid.  I suggest you try the Emigrants to Australia Board.
I wonder if this may be his family in 1841.
HO107/260/1 Folio 10 Page 12
(?)llers rest
Bishops Nympton (South Molton District)
HARRIS Francis 60 Y Ag Lab
HARRIS Mary 55 Y
HARRIS George 7 Y
and more baptisms
HARRIS Agnes 28 Dec 1823 Bishops Nympton
HARRIS Margaret 27 Nov 1825 Bishops Nympton
HARRIS Sarah 21 Jan 1829 Bishops Nympton
HARRIS George 6 Feb 1834 Bishops Nympton
1851 Census
HO107/1891 Folio 85 Page 12
Travellers Rest
Bishops Nympton
HARRIS Francis Head 70 Mar b Noth Molton Ag Lab
HARRIS Mary Wife 64 Mar b North Molton
KINGWILL Mary Lodger 57 Widow b Berrington Pauper
Daughter Sarah is next door at Johnstone a house servant aged 22 unm b Bishops Nympton at the home of William Baker Widow aged 60 a farmer and family.
There is a John Harris aged 31 also in the parish at Higher Willery listing as age 31 b Bishops Nympton ag lab - Wife Susanna 30 b Lapford daughter Mary Ann 3 b Bishops Nympton and son in law Thomas Snell b Lapford
Back to 1841
Sarah is 2 houses from her parents at ?nston (Page is cut off) she is listed as aged 12 and an app to William Baker
also the possible son John
HO107/260/1 Folio 6 Page 4
Kips Cott
Bishops Nympton
Home of Robert Berryman 75 - Farmer and family
HARRIS John 20 Y Ag Lab
Cheers Kris 
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1861 Francis and Mary are still living - this appears to be one residence and seems to confirm a connection to John who now lists as born North Molton 
RG9/1483 Folio 31 Page 19
Boston Cottage
Bishops Nympton
HARRIS Francis Lodger 80 b Bishops Nympton Laborer
HARRIS Mary Lodger 74 Mar b Bishops Nympton
HARRIS John Head 40 Mar b North Molton Lab
HARRIS Susan Wife 40 Mar b Lapford
HARRIS Mary Ann Dau 13 b Bishops Nympton
LEWIS Elizabeth Visitor 24 b South Molton Dressmaker
Francis HARRIS died Mar 1/4 1864 South Molton 5b 377
Mary HARRIS died Mar 1/4 1867 South Molton aged 80 Years 5b 370
Francis HARRIS was baptised 23 Mar 1781 North Molton parents James and Rose
IGI Submitted entries suggest James HARRIS = Rose WESTCOT 11 Aug 1780 North Molton
Mary PAUL was baptised 30 July 1787 North Molton parents Timothy and Joan
Timothy PAUL = Joan PASMORE 9 Mar 1781 North Molton
John HARRIS = Susan HELE Jun 1/4 1847 South Molton 10 291
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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Good Luck Jack,
I suspect the immigration was just prior to the 1841 census. Your death cert listing him as having been in the colony 51 years in 1892 seems to support this. Francis Harris is rather common - In fact there are two in North Molton in 1841, one even has a wife Mary (Too young to be your Francis's Parents) There are a couple of 20 year olds in Devon- one with family and the other not (a seaman not born in Devon) 1841 is a difficult search when a persons moves about, with no exact pob, but it does not appear your Francis is still in Devon by this time. Have you tried Vic Records in case he arrived via Vic? Just wondering if you have looked outside NSW for the record...............Kris
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