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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 15:09 BST (UK) »

Wendi

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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 15:20 BST (UK) »

Yer, but just the one hey  Grin  Kiss
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 16:43 BST (UK) »




What are you guys sayin' ?? ... I've got no money to lend you two !!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

So who's going to talk to "Picture of You" then ??!!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 19:54 BST (UK) »



I went through loads of pictures at the library .... couldn't find anything specifically for Salford ... but sometime when you have a few hours to spare  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes take a look !!  Cheesy ..... fascinating to see how many people were involved !!

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Records 1 - 10 of 925 in DPL Western History Photos
Search type: Author or name
Search was: Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show
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« Reply #49 on: Saturday 19 April 08 01:07 BST (UK) »




I put this on the other thread and thought I should put it here too !!  Cheesy

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Black Elk was one of a party of six Lakota Indians who unwisely allowed themselves to become detached from the rest of Buffalo Bill’s entourage just before it was scheduled to sail back to the States at the end of the 1887-88 season in England. As a consequence, they found themselves stranded in Manchester. They resolved their predicament by travelling to London, where they had heard that Mexican Joe had a rival Wild West show, and enlisted as performers

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And I never thought about the Russians too !!  Cheesy

http://www.georgians.ge/history.htm

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 19 April 08 10:36 BST (UK) »

I never heard of Mexican Joe before, but we used to have a playground skipping song:

Cowboy Joe from Mexico
Hands up, stick em up, drop your gun and pick it up
And out you go

You did the 'hands up' etc actions when it was your turn in the rope

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« Reply #51 on: Saturday 19 April 08 16:04 BST (UK) »





I never heard of him either Barb .... but then I've never heard of your skipping song either !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Must be a Manc thing !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 19 April 08 16:11 BST (UK) »





I never heard of him either Barb .... but then I've never heard of your skipping song either !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Must be a Manc thing !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Nope Annie, it is not just a mank thing  Grin
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 19 April 08 16:53 BST (UK) »

Didn't have you down as a skipper Migky - man of many talents I see  Grin Grin Grin

I had a look to see if anyone knew the origin of the 'Cowboy Joe' rhyme, in case the skipping song turned out to be about Mexican Joe's wild west show - couldn't find anything though.

Must not get sidetracked into skipping songs!  Roll Eyes

Mexican Joe doesn't get such a good press as Buffalo Bill though does he? Bit sad to think of his show going bust in Barnsley... sounds very cold and miserable   http://www.tnais.com/bbis/mj.html

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« Reply #54 on: Saturday 19 April 08 17:40 BST (UK) »





I never heard of him either Barb .... but then I've never heard of your skipping song either !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Must be a Manc thing !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Nope Annie, it is not just a mank thing  Grin
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I didn't take you for a skipper either Mig !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy unless you've taken up boxing !!  Cheesy




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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 19 April 08 20:40 BST (UK) »

A big hello to Migky,
How you doing my friend? loads of somersaulting smileys Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

And poor old Annie, what a deprived childhood, no skipping song. Probably couldn't remember the words, I mean Mexican has at least 7 letters Roll Eyes

I know a descendant of those North American Indians, she is beautiful, and when you hear her story, you can see her immediately for who she is.

Love you all my friends, and apologies for being AWOL, but I'm back now, well at least for a few hours, who knows what tomorrow might bring Grin

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« Reply #56 on: Saturday 19 April 08 20:56 BST (UK) »




You're probably right Tony !! ... never even heard of a Mexican till I came to America !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Off topic ... but it's my thread .......  Undecided

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« Reply #57 on: Saturday 19 April 08 21:00 BST (UK) »

Oh Annie, so beautiful,  I remember it so well cos the girls wouldn't let the boys play, meanies!  Roll Eyes

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 20 April 08 16:02 BST (UK) »



I laughed when I saw this ....  Grin

"Bill probably went to the Indian reservations himself to sign up the Indians for his show that year. That these "sign up" days were great occasions in the lives of the Indians is evident from a description attributed to Death Valley Scotty:
The ceremony of selecting the Indians for the show became an annual spring affair, and when he could Cody selected the lucky individuals himself. The Indians, five or six hundred of them, would come to Rushville (a Nebraska town near the South Dakota border) where the selections were made, and they came in their finest buckskins, feathers, and beads. They were quite a sight in their grand finery. Only a small part of that number could be used, and the ones not chosen felt pretty bad about it. The government required the Colonel, or his representative, to post bonds that the Indians would be well fed while away and that they would be returned to the reservation in good health and a new suit of clothes.16"
"C.D. O'Kieffe, who lived in the area in the eighties, said, "I'll never forget seeing Buffalo Bill come each spring to get his braves. They left in paint and feathers and returned, after a year, in Prince Albert coats, Stetsons, patent leather shoes and long, well-groomed glossy hair."17" [Yost. Buffalo Bill, Chicago, p. 143]
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« Reply #59 on: Sunday 20 April 08 18:39 BST (UK) »

A lovely description of their return, but can you imagine the consternation caused by their 'manc' accent. Eh up, How Shocked

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