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The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« on: Saturday 05 April 08 17:11 BST (UK) »



Thought this was interesting ...... I'd never heard of this before !!  Smiley

Visitors to Salford, home of Coronation Street, might muse over street names such as Buffalo Court and Dakota Avenue. They derive from the winter of 1887-88, when the city's back-to-back terraces were augmented by 97 native Americans in teepees, plus 10 elks, 18 buffalo and assorted other livestock. The native Americans had arrived in November 1887 as part of 'Buffalo Bill's Wild West and Congress of Rough Riders of the World Show'. This spectacle was led by the army scout William Frederick 'Buffalo Bill' Cody and included bucking-bronco riding and other acts of derring-do from a 200-strong troupe. They set up tents beside the River Irwell, and in the evenings performed at a nearby venue. Such was the demand that they stayed for five months, becoming part of local life. One native American couple had a baby girl baptised at St Clement's Church. Several of the Salford Sioux had been in the Battle of Little Big Horn, including Nicholas Black Elk, who would later be immortalised in the 1932 bestseller Black Elk Speaks. Black Elk was one of a party left behind in Salford who had to make their own way back to the US.
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 April 08 19:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Annie,

For a little more info. see

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=475572&in_page.id=1770

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 April 08 19:59 BST (UK) »



Isn't it funny how things come around Dave ?? .... two or three years ago I went to the theater to see the production of Black Elk Speaks !! came out of there on a "high" ... it was so insightful !!

Thank you so much for that site .... wonder if they ever found the Sioux warrior ? though the article was only written last year .... I would be interested in hearing about him .... if there is any other information around !!  Smiley

I found the original post when I was trying to find The Charge of the Light Brigade survivors with Buffalo Bill !! ( I'm about 10 mins away from his museum !! )  Smiley

Annie  Smiley

PS Note to Wendi .... look at that beautiful face !!

http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchresult.cfm?word=Red%20Shirt%2C%20Sioux%20chief&s=3&notword=&f=2
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:21 BST (UK) »

And on BBC north west news archives: there were a few features about it last year :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/features/salford_sioux/

The interview with Charging Thunder's grand daughter (of Gorton  Cheesy) is great

 Smiley Barbara
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:30 BST (UK) »

Oh Annie what have you started  Roll Eyes you have your NYPL chap, I bags the one Dave found  Wink

Anyone read anything by Lucia St. Clair Robson ?

Barbara nice post Gorton & all !!! I'm off to read .........

Wendi  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:34 BST (UK) »



How very very cool Barbara !!  Smiley .... I LOVE serendipity don't you ??  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Wendi .... it's the SAME guy !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:38 BST (UK) »

Yer but I oh so prefer the more mature one  Grin

Wendi  Smiley
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:48 BST (UK) »

Annie, Barbara & Wendi,

It is getting like Blind Date   Wink  Wink

Here are some more details.

http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/yourcom/salfordlife/aboutsalford/salfordlocalhistory/salfordsioux/knowyoursalfordsioux.htm

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As long as we don't give you a headache my Friend .... I think you could handle the three of us !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Thank you for the link !!  Cheesy
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 April 08 20:59 BST (UK) »

Annie!! Behave - Its not past the nine o'clock watershed yet!

Oh wait - it is  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Wink Barbara

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My friend just called so we're going to go to the museum and see what we can find !!  Cheesy

Barbara ... you know what Dave is like .... he's worse than a woman for headaches when he can't handle the pressure !!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:08 BST (UK) »

Great stuff Gal some time out in the mountains   Wink

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:21 BST (UK) »

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:26 BST (UK) »

I love this photo, Wild Bill, and Sioux leaders, shame on you Annie, i sent you this weeks ago cos I though you would love it xxx Anybody who would like an original please PM.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:28 BST (UK) »


Now THAT'S what you call cool .... Indians on the tram !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Where did you find that Mr H ??

PS ...........  NO YOU DIDN'T !!!!!!!!!!!!!  Tongue
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
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Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
US source - US Census Bureau
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