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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #75 on: Friday 25 April 08 21:38 BST (UK) »

I've got Worthingtons as well somewhere Nick!

And Grants,,  and Croft, and Taylors (port).   Sadly not found any actual brewing connections yet, but you never know

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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #76 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:02 BST (UK) »

damn, what a disappointment Angry keep going though, they may be there somewhere Cry Cry
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #77 on: Saturday 26 April 08 12:21 BST (UK) »

Had to go and get better photo


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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester
Capper - Manchester

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #78 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:21 BST (UK) »

Nice one Ken Grin

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #79 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:31 BST (UK) »




I think they're smashing photos Ken !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy .... but it is interesting that they didn't include his Indian name isn't it ?? ......

He must have been scared of somebody .... not sure if it was just the American Army !!

Wonder what his family at home thought - when he didn't come back ??  Undecided
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 27 April 08 02:30 BST (UK) »

At present there is free online access to British newspapers 1600 - 1900 .

On August 12 1887 in  "The Liverpool Mercury"  there is a report about "Mexican Joe" , who is to appear in Liverpool for an extended tour . "!Mexican Joe" is Col Joe Shelley .
The site is "Gale Digital Collections" .

I entered the name of my great grandfather , who was a Manchester police constable , and I found an 1881 report in the Manchester Times , of a court case which describes his injuries when he tried to capture a burglar .

I also found a report , from 1852 , which mentioned this man's father in law giving evidence about the Stockport riots between the English and the Irish .
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #81 on: Sunday 27 April 08 12:24 BST (UK) »

The Gale archive is good isn't it? None of my rellies seem to get into the papers  Roll Eyes but fun to browse.

I wonder also Annie, how his English name was chosen? After someone he admired? Completely at random? You hear tales of immigrants that had 'difficult' names, that were altered pretty much on the whim of the immigration officer they met on the day.. 

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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #82 on: Monday 28 April 08 00:30 BST (UK) »

Hi All,

Ken, it looks like there was some spiritual movement when you took those pictures.  The angels appear to have vanished on one Grin Grin Grin 

Also a warm welcome to Nick who may be wishing he had now took some of Bursy`s headache pills Roll Eyes  Perhaps he may need some in the forseeable future as he shouldn`t have mentioned where he worked Grin Grin

Night everyone,
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #83 on: Monday 28 April 08 10:11 BST (UK) »

The angels appear to have vanished on one Grin Grin Grin

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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester
Capper - Manchester

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #84 on: Monday 28 April 08 23:11 BST (UK) »

I never heard of Mexican Joe before, but we used to have a playground skipping song:

Cowboy Joe from Mexico
Hands up, stick em up, drop your gun and pick it up
And out you go

You did the 'hands up' etc actions when it was your turn in the rope

 Smiley Barbara

I  have just read this out to a friend . She said they used this as a skipping song in Belfast in the '50's .
But she says there should be another line before "and out you go "

Anyone know it ?

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #85 on: Monday 28 April 08 23:34 BST (UK) »

Oh 'eck!   Cheesy
One of my son's teachers is from Belfast I think, I'll ask her if she knows any more words tomorrow.

There was a similar one about a teddy bear - sorry Annie, off topic again - "Teddy Bear Teddy Bear turn around, teddy bear teddy bear touch the ground.." can't remember the rest! 

And that song about the moon on Charlie Chaplin, but I don't think there were actions to that.

Smiley Barbara




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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry
DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 01:01 BST (UK) »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Little Bumper Car

I had a little bumper car, number 48
I took it round the cor-ner

At this point the skipper jumps out and runs round the rope turners and jumps back in again…..

Then I pull my brakes
Policeman caught me
Put me into jail
How many bottles of Ginger Ale?

Ten, twenty, thirty etc, the rope turns faster and faster and faster…

I have loads of others .... but we'll get told off for going off topic AGAIN !!!!!!!! .... oh OK just one more below !!
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Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/faqgene.txt
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 01:04 BST (UK) »


Salt Pepper Vinegar

Salt, mustard, vinegar, pepper, French almond rock
Bread and butter for your supper, that's all Mother's got
Fish and chips and Coca Cola, put them in a pan
Irish stew and ice cream soda, we'll eat all we can !


Charlie Chaplin sat on a pin

Charlie Chaplin sat on a pin
How many inches did it go in?
1,2,3, etc ( skipping these numbers as "bumps") - (or twice over head
to 1 skip)

Stand at Attention

I am a Girl Guide dressed in blue
these are the actions I must do

Stand at attention,
Stand at ease,
Bend your Elbows,
Bend your knees,
Salute to the Captain,
Bow to the Queen,
Show your knicks to the boys in green!

Teddy bear, Teddy bear

Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Touch the ground.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Turn around.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Show your shoe.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
That will do.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Run upstairs.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Say your prayers.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Blow out the light.
Teddy bear, Teddy bear,
Say good night.


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Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
US source - US Census Bureau
http://www.census.gov/genealogy/www/faqgene.txt
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 01:30 BST (UK) »



Nebuchadnezzar , King of the Jews
Bought his wife a pair of shoes ...
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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 06 May 08 21:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Annie and all:

In case anyone is interested, you can watch a film about Buffalo Bill online. The American equivalent of the BBC, called PBS, recently broadcast a film on Buffalo Bill and his Wild West show as part of its American Experience series. The show features footage from the Buffalo Bill’s visit to London and includes the most famous Sioux, Sitting Bull. I saw the show when it was broadcast on television and found it quite interesting. As with programs of this sort, it takes apart the legend.

Here’s a link to the PBS web page for the Buffalo Bill show

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/cody/program/


On the web page, you can click on the blue-colored “Chapter 1” and get a new window to watch the program. Choose from Quicktime (for viewing on a Mac) or Windows Media (for the PC).

There is a minor inconvenience. When you get the video screen, there will be a series of squares near the bottom: one mocha colored, the rest blue. You have to click on them successively to go from the first chapter to the second and so on.

Beware: I found that enlarging the window to full screen while watching made the video disappear. I had to start all over to get the picture back.

Happy Trails,
John  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Scotland: HENDRY of Who-knows-where-shire and Massachusetts, USA; HOUSTON of Lesmahagow and Glasgow and Massachusetts, USA; DEMPSTER of Lesmahagow; MEIKLE of Ayrshire, Hamilton, and Glasgow; COCHRAN of Hamilton.

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