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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #90 on: Monday 12 May 08 19:16 BST (UK) »


John ! .... lovely to see you !!  Smiley Smiley

Thank you so much for that .... I missed it on PBS ..... I was ticked !!  Undecided ..... but somebody told me about it ....

I'm going to look right now !!

Thanks again

Annie  Smiley
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #91 on: Monday 12 May 08 19:51 BST (UK) »
Annie: You're welcome. Nice to hear from you too. I've gotten on the trail of one of my lines that originated in Lancashire--they're Nevills, from Upholland, near Wigan. Everyone who sees the name envies me for my possible relation to The Kingmaker. Wouldn't I have a claim to the throne if I could prove my descent? Even if he did have only daughters for children.

Don't be surprised if I call on you for expertise.

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England, YKS: SLATER of Ovenden and Halifax; DRURY of Darton, Mapplewell, Sheffield and Halifax; DOBSON of Thornton (near Bradford); NEVILL(E) of Wigan, Lancs and Darton; MEGSON of Dewsbury; GARSIDE of Woolley and West Bretton.

Scotland: HENDRY of Who-knows-where-shire and Massachusetts, USA; HOUSTON of Lesmahagow and Glasgow and Massachusetts, USA; DEMPSTER of Lesmahagow; MEIKLE of Ayrshire, Hamilton, and Glasgow; COCHRAN of Hamilton.

Paradise: EVE and ADAM, also in exile
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #92 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 10:16 BST (UK) »
Nah, sorry - you colonials gave up any claims to the throne when you commited the ultimate crime of throwing our tea into the sea. That was the ultimate crime and can never be forgiven.  Shocked Shocked
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #93 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 11:09 BST (UK) »
Quote from: NickR on Tuesday 13 May 08 10:16 BST (UK)
Nah, sorry - you colonials gave up any claims to the throne when you commited the ultimate crime of throwing our tea into the sea. That was the ultimate crime and can never be forgiven.  Shocked Shocked

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #94 on: Monday 02 June 08 18:35 BST (UK) »

Look what I got today ..... This is another avenue that we can pursue .... I'd love to be able to help Fillup ..... anybody got any ideas ??

Paul Eagle Star was mentioned here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=b7654d5ebadddd64e5357c56d66276d8&topic=296911.30

I'm going to add this post to the other US thread also !!

Hello Annie - Your information came up via RootsChat.Com when I was doing a web search. I have some 'Great' relatives that were connected with B.B.W.W.S.. They were with the 1887 & 1891 tours. I'm specifically looking for information on a Mr. Paul Eagle Star , a Burle Indian, that died from injuries received in the opening performance of the 1891 tour. His remains were allegedly return to South Dakota in the early 1990's for reburial. My Great Grandfather was George C. Crager, he was an Lakota interpreter for B.B.W.W.S. and was with Mr. Paul Eagle Star at his death.

My Great Uncle James W. Willoughby "Jim Kid"and Crager were brothers-in-law. Jim was a champion rider and roper that was married to Lillian Francis Smith. Lillian was a trick shooter and rival to Annie Oakley. Both Jim & Lillian performed in the 1887 Jubilee Tour.

I've posted a web site about Jim 'Kid', if you'd care to see some of his photographs and read about his career please give it a visit:

http://web.mac.com/fillupe/Site/James_W._Willoughby.html

Also attached are four additional web sites that I have posted. Please pass along any information that you may have concerning Mr. Paul Eagle Star time permitting.

http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/legends/vpost?id=2464870
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/legends/vpost?id=2473274
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/legends/vpost?id=2446167
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/legends/vpost?id=2465621

fillupe
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #95 on: Monday 02 June 08 20:11 BST (UK) »


Hi fillupe !

If you're reading this .... did you get in touch with Brompton Cemetery ?? your Paul Eagle Star was supposedly buried there originally .... they may have records !

Annie  Smiley
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
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Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #96 on: Thursday 26 June 08 04:51 BST (UK) »


This would be a very cool picture ... if we could see it properly !!  Cheesy Cheesy Roll Eyes

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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
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Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #97 on: Thursday 26 June 08 08:01 BST (UK) »
Now thats a challenge for the restoration team  hey Anni, i wounder if they will take the bait Grin
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« Reply #98 on: Thursday 26 June 08 10:39 BST (UK) »
It shouldn't be too difficult a job to enhance the contrast and clean it up a bit. I know someone who'se pretty good with photoshop but he's away on holiday at the moment. If no-one else takes it up I'll ask him to have a look when he gets back. Do you know where it was taken?
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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #99 on: Thursday 26 June 08 11:08 BST (UK) »
Photo way to small (64kb) to make any great difference

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« Reply #100 on: Thursday 26 June 08 15:10 BST (UK) »


Thanks MancsMan !!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  that's better ! ....... at least you can see it ... just not the faces !!

Though I think I can see Red Shirt in the middle !!  Roll Eyes

Annie  Smiley
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
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« Reply #101 on: Sunday 29 June 08 14:18 BST (UK) »


Thought you might enjoy this one !!  Cheesy

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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
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« Reply #102 on: Sunday 13 July 08 01:57 BST (UK) »



A snippet from Tom Cunningham .......  Smiley was anybody's family from Pendleton  ??

As was frequently the case elsewhere, a local group of underprivileged children found themselves the grateful recipients of one of Buffalo Bill’s legendary philanthropic impulses. For, as an unidentified and undated newspaper article related

‘THE WILD WEST.- Five hundred Pendleton poor children were invited to the Wild West Show last evening. Under the charge of Mr. James Richardson, the children, assembling at the Pendleton Lads’ Club, marched in procession via Old Trafford to the show, headed by the boys’ band of the Salford Union. It is almost unnecessary to state that the youngsters thoroughly enjoyed the entertainment and keenly appreciated the kindness of Colonel Cody.’

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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind !
Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

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Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« Reply #103 on: Sunday 13 July 08 13:38 BST (UK) »
Pendleton Lads Club! Very very famous musical pilgrimage place - at the risk of going off at a tangent (who me?  Grin Grin would I do that) this is the place Morrissey & the Smiths made famous

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/61/61750_100_years_of_lads_club_history.html

good pub quiz question that - what's the link between Morrissey and Buffalo Bill!

 Smiley Barbara
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DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant
LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell
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« Reply #104 on: Monday 14 July 08 09:53 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BarbaraH on Sunday 13 July 08 13:38 BST (UK)
Pendleton Lads Club! Very very famous musical pilgrimage place - at the risk of going off at a tangent (who me?  Grin Grin would I do that) this is the place Morrissey & the Smiths made famous


The article talks about Salford lads Club in Ordsall, I suspect Pendleton Lads Club was a different place. Sad
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