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243rose
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can you decipher ????
« on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:26 UTC (UK) »
what parish is this from a Surrey will ??

Any ideas welcome.
I'm baffled.

Iain.
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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:57 UTC (UK) »
Looks like "Assen Senr"  Huh

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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 April 08 21:59 UTC (UK) »
There are two Assendens (Lower and Upper) in Oxfordshire - could it be one of those?
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:01 UTC (UK) »
I've been searching the Oxfordshire parishes, Prue - Think that second word could certainly be Lower - Lowr .

Good one  Cheesy

Gadget
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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

The Assendens are in South Oxfordshire, There is a Lower and a Middle Assedon, but I have not heard of Upper Assendon at all, though there might have been at one tiime.

It is a very beautiful area! http://www.bixandassendon.org.uk/

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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:18 UTC (UK) »
Hi Rabbit Smiley

It was Prue that found it - not me. I just interpreted the Lowr bit.

Yes - it does look a lovely area  Cheesy

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

I have just googled Upper Assendon, because I was curious, it looks as if at one time it might have been the land round Christmas Common that was referred to as Upper Assendon.  That is the top end of the now Stonor valley.

No disrespect to Prue [sorry Pru] but I am a local you see!

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 April 08 02:02 UTC (UK) »
No, Rabbit, you're correct - I had a temporary lapse and wrote "Upper" but it is actually "Middle"  Smiley
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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 April 08 09:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi Prue,

Actually it is you who is correct, sort of!  My OH tells me that there is a hamlet of only a few houses, called Higher Assendon. 

I was telling him about this last night, he used to deliver cars for a while after he retired, for the local garage.  One chap had an address at Higher Assendon,  turn right out of the Stonor Valley up a steep hill toward Christmas Common I am told.

So I was wrong I did not know that!  But you learn something new every day don't you.

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 April 08 09:43 UTC (UK) »
So, getting back to the writing  Grin

Do we think it's Assenden Lower or what  Huh

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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:04 UTC (UK) »
Hi.
only me again.
thanks for all yr help.
i don't think the writing says 'lower'.
looking again it says simply assen don..........  the person who wrote it was probably unfamiliar with the place name.

cheers
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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:19 UTC (UK) »
Sorry, Iain

I don't agree. The other d in Oxfordshire is different and there is definitely an r written as superscript at the end.

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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:24 UTC (UK) »
Are you saying that the first word just says 'Assen' ??  and the whole Assen Low(r) ??
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:42 UTC (UK) »
That's what I'm thinking, Iain, not sure about the others. I'd hazard a guess that Assenden was abbreviated to Assen in this instance. The superscript 'r' is very pronounced in the second word.

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Re: can you decipher ????
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 April 08 10:57 UTC (UK) »
I see what you mean.
Would thaey have abbreviated on a will ??.
i know it's not helpfull for all my helpers not to have sight of the entire document.
The writer of the will perhaps thought that Assen Don were two words instead of one and that the L is a capital D.
The author's lower case L's are not the same as the possible L in lower although i cannot find an example of an upper case L to compare.
But in general you have all agreed that it is most likely Assendon in one form or another whether it be upper, lower, middle or slightly left of centre and for that i thank you.

Iain.
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