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There is this Charles
1901
46 osborne St (next door to the Freemasons Hall)
Kingston upon hull
Yorks
Louis Rosenthall head m 47 Cabinet manufacturer Employer at home Poland Foreign Subject
Ada wife 46 Poland Foreign Subject
Sophia daughter U 26 Hull Yorks
Moses son U 20 cabinet maker Manchester lancs
Dora daughter U 18 Dressmaker Hull Yorks
Samuel son 12 scholar Hull
Augusta daughter 10 scholar Hull
Solomon son 7 scholar
CHARLES son 5 Scholar hull
Rosa daughter 3 hull
Rosa Kauffman Boarder U 20 French Polisher manchester Lancs
RG13 4498 23 14
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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it looks that way - I'll look for them on a previous census and see what it gives as p.o.b.
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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In 1891 Louis gives p.o.b. as Russia
1891
41 Goodwin St
Kingston Upon Hull
Louis Rosentall Head M Cabinet maker Russia
Ada M wife 35 Poland
Sophia daughter 16 hull Yorks
harry son 15 no occupation Manchester lancs
Moses J son 10 scholar Manchester lancs
Dora daughter 8 scholar Hull
Samuel son 2 Hull Yorks
Augusta daughter 1 mth Hull
RG12 3901 147 18
1881 is strange- just studying it
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1881 -what looks like the same family - but wife is Annie and son Harry seems to be daughter Alice?
also Louis(lewis) is a year older than he was n 1891
I can only find this family
1881 manchester Lancs
2 derby Court Millgate
lewis Rosenthall head m 37 Cabinet maker Poland
Annie wife 27 poland
Sophia daughter 6 Manchester lancs
Alice daughter 4 Manchester Lancs
Moses son 4 mths
RG11 4004 122 19
Looking at the p.o.b. of children in 1891 -it would seem likely in 1881 they were in Manchester
I have found this marriage
Jun qtr 1878
Leeds
on same page
Lewis Rosenthall
Annie jarvis
9b 633
a puzzle?
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I think I may have solved the harry/ alice puzzle
just double checking now
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looking for birth reg manchester for Alice or Harry
Found
Birth reg
Jun qtr 1877
manchester
HARRIS Rosenthall
8d 273
it is quite possible (especially with accents) that the enumerator heard "Alice" instead of "Harris" and assumed he was a girl!!!!
What backs up this theory is
Death reg
Mar qtr 1899
Hull
age 22
HARRIS rosenthall
9d 154
daughter Sophia - p.o.b. in 1901/1891 given as Hull, 1881 given as Manchester
I can only find a birth reg at correct time for Sophia b. hull
now the Annie puzzle
I wondered if Annie died and Louis remarried to Ada -but I can't seem to find another marriage
it also seems strange that Annie and Ada are of similar age and p.o.b.
Im going t look for an Annie jarvis b Poland
back soon
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Done a little digging -if we accept for some reason Louis age is 10 yrs out in 1881
then there is a possibility for him in 1871 -in Kingston upon Hull
age 15 occ Glazier with parents Selig and Therisa -they have 7 children all except the last being born in Poland.
RG10 4792 126 24
There is also in 1871 in manchester jacob Rosenthall (occupation Joiner -which could also be associated with cabnet making) wife betsey and 4 children -one of them is called Harris - all b. Poland -maybe they are related RG10 4044 43 77
Cannot find any jarvis b. Poland
on the marriage reg I found the other 2 names on the page were Thomas Etherington and leah Lendofski - leah sounds more Polish -wonder if she was really Annie or Ada?
Think one of the childrens birth certs is necessary for parents names
Then maybe the marriage cert
Then we can possibly narrow down the time when they came to England
Then a post on the immigrants section would be a good idea.
But really should wait to gather as much info of their time in England before you take that path
Hope this helps - hopefully we can find ot more when you have a certificate
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