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tarnee
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Good Morning Good Evening
Confusing isn't it?
Whilst your busy at that end l have been busy here following through the 1881 census the rest of John's siblings only Ann is missing yet will look again today.
1891 census a George Wilson he must be a family member l will chase that one up.
l don't know how you do it but it has just amazed me at how much you have been able to give me on my family l really cann't thank you enough.
kind regards
Jean
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Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.
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Mum44
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Hi Jean - I'll just stick to hello ! It's mid-night here and it doesn't feel quite right to be saying good morning!
We looked at William Lee, but decided we weren't going to be able to add anything to what you already know - we can't find William's baptism, so we don't know who his parents were. And you already have Ester's parents.
Given that we can't get back any further at present, is there anything from the census years you would like to have which we may be able to help with?
One thing I did find you might wish to know:
John Samuel Spark married Q1 1906 Oldham Vol 8d. Pg. 703
Two ladies on the page : Eliza Ann Cardle and Minnie Parton. Don't know which of those two it was - certificate will tell you.
I've enjoyed this one - it's always fun to have a challenge and the two John's were certainly that!
Let me know if there's anything else you need
Mary
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte.
Kent: Float, Cutbush. Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tarnee
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Hello Mary,
Much appreciate that extra information l will follow that one up.
Just checked this George Wilson from 1891 census thought maybe one of Abraham's brothers but he belongs to a William Wilson according to 1881 William born Moreton so it could be just a coincidence with name being Wilson.
l am glad you have enjoyed the challenge and genealogy certainly at times taxes the brain, you have been a wealth of information and have given me more than l ever expected a BIG THANK YOU.
Jean
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Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.
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tarnee
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Hi Mary.
According to 1881 George Wilson is with family Father William mother Margaret. If l am correct William Wilson married Margaret Littlemore
QDec 1863 8a 670 born Dec Q 1844 Runcorn 19 204
her parents John Littlemore & Mary Garner marr. Mar Q 1841 Runcorn 19 163.
William Wilson chr. 11 Sept 1842 Wallasey (IGI)
Other children:-
Joseph chr. 26 Jul 1835
Peter chr. 11 Jul 1835
Thomas chr 17 Mar 1839
Elizabeth chr. 17 Nov 1833
Jane chr 4 Jan 1829
Margery chr. 16 May 1830
Margery chr 4 Mar 1832
John chr. 2 Jun 1844
All born Wallasey
parents Joseph Wilson & Frances Ledsham marr. 17 Aug 1829 Wallasey
Joseph chr 16 May 1808 Wallasey parents Thos Wilson & Jane.
Frances chr 21 Jan 1810 Wallasey parents Peter Ledsham & Frances.
But at the end of all this l still can not see or find the link why he is with Jane (my 2xggranny.) Are any of the above in your family tree? What am l missing here? or is it just a coincidence in the Wilson name.
Jean
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Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.
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Mum44
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Well, the family you found in 1881 is certainly one of my Wilson families, however - their George married in 1885 to Marian Bispham, and by 1891 they had two children, George was still working on the Railway.
So I'm afraid that is not your George, who in 1891 was a farm labourer lodging with Jane Spark!
At the moment I can't see a George b. Little Sutton - but I'll keep looking and let you know what I find.
Mary
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte.
Kent: Float, Cutbush. Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tarnee
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Hi Mary,
Then perhaps this bit of info belongs to you
George Wilson age 39 Widow Occ. Railway Offical father William Wilson Occ. Lab.
married Alice Cooke age 24 spinster father Henry Cooke Occ. Sea Captian
1st June 1904 Birkenhead.
l could find no other George so thanks for keeping me in mind.
In the meantime thank you so much for all your help.
Jean
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Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.
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Mum44
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Well, all of the above you mentioned are mine, although I don't record in-laws, so only Joseph and Frances descendents feature.
Frances father Peter Ledsham was brother to my 4 x great grandfather Jonathan Ledsham.
I have William married to Margaret Ruddick, but I admit I haven't got any certificates, so Margaret Littlemore may be correct.
Either way, it's not the same George!
Thanks for the 2nd marriage of my George, tho - I hadn't got that and am grateful!
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte.
Kent: Float, Cutbush. Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tarnee
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Glad l could help you this time 
l don't know if l am correct with Margaret Littlemore there was also a Margarey Henry l just used the census age and the Littlemore name fitted l could be completly wrong.
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Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.
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Melagbe
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Hi Jean and Mary
The Wilson family you mentioned Joseph to Frances Ledsham is mine. These are my 4x great grandparents.
I can confirm that the William Wilson, son of the above died in 1853.
I think the George Wilson, father William Wilson is from the other Wilson family from Moreton.
regards
Mel 
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main family lines at Wirral -( Davies, Wilson, Price, Redhead, Dawson) Liverpool - ( Evans, Lowey, Pettigrew), North Wales (Davies, Roberts, Owens, Gage), Exeter (Martin, Hall, Davey, Sweetland, Follett), Sprowston ( Stone, Germany), Sheffield and Rotherham (Bailey/Beeley, Martin) http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk/ |
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Melagbe
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Hi again
I have a copy of the marriage between William Wilson and Margaret Henry. They married at St Oswald's, Bidston on 28 Dec 1863.
Williams father is down as Joseph, but with the research I have done can say this is not the son of Joseph Wilson to Frances Ledsham.
My family
1851 Census: HO107_2174 folio 188 Page 30
Moreton, Cheshire
Joseph WILSON Head Mar 42 Farmer of 44 Acres Chester, Wirral
Frances WILSON Wife Mar 40 Farmers Wife Chester, Wirral
Margery CALDECOT Dau Mar 19 ---- Chester, Wirral
Elizabeth WILSON Dau Unm 17 Farmers Daug Chester, Wirral
Joseph WILSON Son U 15 Scholar Chester, Wirral
Frances WILSON Dau 13 Scholar Chester, Wirral
Thomas WILSON Son 12 Scholar Chester, Wirral
Peter WILSON Son 9 Scholar Chester, Wirral
William WILSON Son 8 Scholar Chester, Wirral
Sarah Ann WILSON Dau 1 Chester, Wirral
Henry CALDECOT Son In Law Mar 22 Flour Dealer, Birkenhead Chester, Norbury
Mary CLARKE Serv Un 23 House servant Chester, West Kirby
James BULLOCK Serv 21 Farm Labourer Chester, Wallasey
William GRIFFITHS Serv 16 Farm Labourer Birkenhead
other Joseph Wilson family
1851 Census: HO107_2174 folio 188 page 29
Moreton, Cheshire
Joseph WILSON Head Mar 38 Agricultural Labourer, Chester, Bidston
Mary WILSON Wife Mar 37 Chester, Claughton
John WILSON Son 11 Scholar Chester, Bidston
WILLIAM WILSON Son 9 Scholar, Chester, Bidston
Mary WILSON Dau 7 Scholar Chester, Bidston
Joseph WILSON Son 5 Scholar Chester, Bidston
Elizabeth WILSON Dau 3 Chester, Bidston
Robert WILSON Son 9months Chester, Bidston
Regards
Mel
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main family lines at Wirral -( Davies, Wilson, Price, Redhead, Dawson) Liverpool - ( Evans, Lowey, Pettigrew), North Wales (Davies, Roberts, Owens, Gage), Exeter (Martin, Hall, Davey, Sweetland, Follett), Sprowston ( Stone, Germany), Sheffield and Rotherham (Bailey/Beeley, Martin) http://www.sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk/ |
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Melagbe
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Hi Mary
Joseph and Frances daughter Jane married Nathanial Price,, and it comes down to me 
Joseph, Frances, her father Peter are buried in St Hilary's Churchyard in Wallasey. I have Mi's from them.
I have done alot of work for the Wilson name, as you said, the names and ages are so close, and I wanted to make sure I had the correct lot. I know I have had it wrong too.
If you need any help here let me know.
Taken from the IGI Peter and Jonathan's father was Richard?
Regards
Mel
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Melagbe
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Sorry Jean 
you started it with your Wilson surname  ..... dont worry, I shall always be on the look out for the marriages of Abraham's children, but think they went to Great Sutton with Jane, and married that end of the Wirral.
I know where the church that Ann married Silas, and there are headstones there, so I will be going to look for your Lee family and Sparks. Any more names?
Regards
Mel
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