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Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD - COMPLETED, THANKS!
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 08:51 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

This is a 'just in case' anyone is able to do a Dartmouth birth lookup for the following people:

Jane PRITCHARD, b. approx 1799

Robert STANNARD, b. approx 1833 (his parents were William STANNARD & Jane PRITCHARD, they were not married at the time, their marriage was registered in 1839, Greenwich, London).  I just want to confirm that he WAS born in Dartmouth so that I can really start looking for information about the family there too...I'm looking for any clues at all as to the birthplace of William STANNARD, his father, as his place of birth is always just indicated as Norfolk, hence the attempt to follow up on Dartmouth!

Both of them indicated Dartmouth, Devon as their place of birth on census returns...

Any help would be most appreciated...!

Regards,

Patricia
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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Patricia

Hoe gaan dit met jou?  Grin

I see in 1851 , Robert has a brother William b c 1840 , also Dartmouth, Devon ... Maybe his birth cert may help confirm his POB ...

I cannot find Robert's christening on IGI, in Devon or any other place for that matter.  Undecided

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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Patricia

Do you have your family on the 1841? I can't seem to spot them.

I have searched for a christening of Robert under the name Pritchard, still nothing.

Another thought... Jane has Robert circa 1833 in Devon, marries William in 1839 in London and then they go back to Devon, Dartmouth to have William in 1840..... it just seems , 'strange' ...all this movement back and forth.

I also cannot find a christening for Jane Pritchard in 1799, Devon on IGI. I am wondering if perhaps she was married before to a MR Pritchard.

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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb,

Dit gaan goed dankie, en met jou?  Wink

Seriously, doing well thanks, and you...?

I've got them on the 1841 & 1851:

"1841 UK Census:
Civil Parish:  St Mary Whitechapel; Hundred:  Ossulstone (Tower Division); County:  Middlesex; Reg district:  Whitechapel; Sub-reg district:  Goodman's Fields; Address:  Lambeth Street; appears as Nelson Slannand, "labourer".
HO107/1546 - St. Mary, Whitechapel
Folio 63, Page 27
Chamber Street

1851 UK Census:
Civil Parish:  St Mary Whitechapel; Ecclesiastical Parish:  St Mark; Hundred:  Ossulstone (Tower Division); County:  Middlesex; Reg district:  Whitechapel; Sub-reg district:  Goodman's Fields; Address:  Chamber Street; appears as William Stannard, "labourer".
HO107/1546 - St. Mary, Whitechapel
Folio 63, Page 27
Chamber Street"

The parents, William & Jane don't appear on the 1861 Census at all - when I asked for someone with more knowledge of it than me to see if they could find it with an approx location, they mentioned that there are gaps in the 1861 London Census, and the Stannard family appear to have found one.  I'm pretty sure Jane died in 1866...William Snr, I think, died soon after, but I'm not sure which one is him!  Suspect that Robert Stannard died somewhere between 1851 and 1861 - the last census he appears in, or that he emigrated!

The birthplace of William Nelson Stannard seems to vary from census to census, he's listed as born in Plumstead, Kent, England on the 1861 Census, but as Dartmouth, Kent on the 1851, and as Middlesex, England on the 1841.  Cannot find a record of his birth on FreeBMD at all!

I've also looked on IGI for Jane Pritchard & Robert Stannard, no luck!

This family are so elusive that I'm HONESTLY beginning to think they were hiding something - or from something!

Anyway, this is my current brick wall - aaaaaargh!

Thanks for looking!

Regards,

Patricia
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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:35 BST (UK) »

hi Patricia

Thanks for the 1841 reference.... It seems strange that William/Nelson says NO to born in county and yet Jane and William are both YES to born in county, ie Middlesex. Also where is Robert born circa 1833 in 1841?

there seems to be a whole lot of little mysteries here!! ...I wonder if Robert is with other family and maybe under the name 'Pritchard" ?

will have a glass of red and ponder  Grin

deb

added ...I have just looked at 1841 again ...2 lines under William , 2years.... in the line under age male/female there is a 10 ...no name in name line .... wonder if this represented Robert and why was name not written down ??  Undecided
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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:43 BST (UK) »

there is this on IGI

Jane Pritchett
chr ; 21 feb 1800 , St Mary Whitechapel , Stepney , London
parents; Thomas Pritchett and Susannah

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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 April 08 10:27 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb,

You're right, looking at my print-out of the 1841 Census, there is a mysterious 10 at the end of it - that may be Robert - I certainly haven't been able to find him anywhere else in the 1841 Census!

Jane Pritchett also looks promising, also 'feels right (have you ever had that 'feels right' thing when you find the right person in your family tree???) I'll investigate them further!

Thanks for the help, at least I'm going around in more positive circles now :-)

Regards,

P.
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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD - COMPLETED, THAN
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 21:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb,

I have 'bowed to the inevitable', bitten the bullet and ordered William / Nelson / William Nelson & Jane Pritchard's marriage certificate - in the desperate hope that it will give me more information about him, and maybe her - although I'm fairly well convinced that her place of origin seems to be London rather than Devon - will send you a PM FYI when it arrives if there is anything of interest in it!

Regards,

Patricia
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Re: Dartmouth birth lookups: Jane PRITCHARD & Robert STANNARD - COMPLETED, THANKS!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 23:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Patricia

I had to do the same thing this week ... ordered the cert just to be sure  Grin

Really it's the best way to go to have peace of mind !  I wonder why William ever said Plumstead , kent.
I seem to think the emunerator was confused ... as it was Kent < dartmouth and then Kent crossed out and Devon inserted. Maybe he had dittoed the boys when it was Kent, which was correct for them and then corrected Jane's POB ./... very confusing .

Wish we could find  William's DOB as well.

Please keep me up dated .... I would love to know the outcome..

deb  Smiley
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