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charlotteCH
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Re: certificates - should i check
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 April 08 14:07 BST (UK) »
So now we are three in the misery club: Iain, Paulene, charlotte.  Probably run into thousands if we persisted and just think, we'd be the founding members.. now that would be something.

We could have an annual award for the worst story.

But this is frivolity is detracting from serious discussion of Iain's real problem- sorry about that and I'll go back in my box and let the serious postive posters help Iain.

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Re: certificates - should i check
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 April 08 14:13 BST (UK) »
Yes, we're digressing.
Iain, have you found his death certificate - to see how he is registerd at death.
Sorry - but I have one who is born John william, marries as William, is John William on child's birth certificate, remarries as William, and dies as William. What is army records say I don't know yet!!!
If it was me I'd try to locate other certicates for him.
Hope this helps, rather than hinders.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 April 08 14:18 BST (UK) »
someimes having more than 1 christian name helps......... other times it definately does not.
I have not found his death cert. my grandad didn't really talk about his family and my mother says the brothers/ sisters did not visit. Rose is a common name and a George Rose dying in south london would cost a fortune in certifcates.

i will die unhappy
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 06 April 08 14:19 BST (UK) »
Don't give up!!
Rootschatters are here to help!
Paulene Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 06 April 08 14:28 BST (UK) »
If your marriage was a church marriage and you can find & have access to the parish records, it would obviously be of benefit to check the originals. If this is not possible, or the originals are the same as your copies, then as Stan mentioned - start looking for other reasons.

If it is a Richard Rose who has become a James Rose there can be many reasons. I have a lass who was registered as Jane, on various census records she is sometimes Emma sometimes Jane and once Jane E. She married as Jane Emma.

Perhaps your man was Richard James or James Richard. He may have been named Richard but known during his life as James - or vice versa. Sometimes folks are named for their father, but then known with a different name throughout their lives. Was this in the 1800s - can you check/verify his name on census records. If a later time, can you check electoral rolls - telephone books?

I have found a number of bdm records containing incorrect information, accidentally or deliberately given. Even currently, there is not a large effort made to verify information. When my daughter was born the information I recorded was accepted without certificate verification( this included when/where the parents were married & details of any other children). When my parents died, the information given on their death certificates was verified only to the extent of the cause of death and funeral director information (Aust certificates contain much more information than English ones - but it is only what the informant has stated - whatever is stated/written by the informant is on the certificate)

There seem to be many instances on RootsChat where a father mentioned on a marriage certificate cannot be found - as mentioned by Paulene, usually to hide illegitimacy.

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