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Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:40 BST (UK) »
My grandmother had an Auntie Rye, or Auntie Roy. I think that the alternative pronunciations may have been due to the Worcestershie / Birmingham accent.

Has anyone come across this name?
I understand that Rye can be short for the Irish name Riley, but I don't think that this is the case here.

I wondered if maybe she married a 'Roy'.

I believe her other name was Florence.

Any ideas, please?

She would have been born in the 1880 or '90s.
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:45 BST (UK) »
Florence could be Flo, Flora, Flossy, Florry. Any help?
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa.
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:51 BST (UK) »
An outside chance - but it fits the Brummie accent - Ray, short for Raymonda?

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:57 BST (UK) »
I've never come acrioss Raymonda before ~ but I'll bear it in mind. Huh
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:58 BST (UK) »
I wish she had used Flossie or something, but my grandmother and her sister always called her Rye or Roy and couldn't really say which of the two it was.
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 April 08 17:59 BST (UK) »

Could it  be Rae?   Not sure when this name came into use; perhaps too modern.  Undecided


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham  SFK
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 April 08 18:01 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tricia_2 on Sunday 06 April 08 17:57 BST (UK)
I've never come acrioss Raymonda before ~ but I'll bear it in mind. Huh

Eastern European. I said it was an outside chance!   Wink

But I was stunned to discover my Aunt Doll, born in Lambeth, was actually christend Theadora, so you never know...  Grin

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 April 08 18:13 BST (UK) »
I'll keep my mind open to any possibility. I've ordered a marriage certificate for my ggm,. which might give me more clues & lead me in the right direction.

I have an Auntie Doll ~ but it's just Dorothy!
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 April 08 18:16 BST (UK) »


Can you find the family on any census?



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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham  SFK
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 April 08 18:21 BST (UK) »
Thats weird,Ive just posted on here and it's not here!!!
what I was saying was,Olivia De Haviland and Bette Davis were called Roy and Stanley in a film they were in..
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:10 BST (UK) »
I don't have enough info yet to search further ~ waiting for certificate.
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:11 BST (UK) »
Maybe it was just a nichname she picked up!!
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 08 23:14 BST (UK) »
Could the nickname be a shortened form of Maria/Mariah like Ria?

P.S. Theodora and Dorothy are different versions of the same name and Dolly is often a nickname for both.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 April 08 23:28 BST (UK) »
Mariah!?
Now that could fit!
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Neal(e) Ropier Jeynes/Jeens Harris Colley Dyer~Glos Beckford/Grafton/Ashton B'ham
Hampton Doyle~ Swansea Merthyr/Dowlais Pontypridd
Maldoon~Pontypridd Frome
Davies~ Merthyr Tydfil
Llewellyn~S.Wales 
Keefe, O'Keefe,Mountain Ash Pontypridd, PA
Svombo Swambo Swanbo etc ~Greece Hydra; Cork/Queenstown; Glam~Cardiff Pontypridd
Barry~Cork Queenstown; Glam
Thornton~Yorks Baildon; Glam Swansea, Merthyr
Jones~Carmarthen Llanboidy
Sarjant Cole~B'ham Leamington Worcester
Hiley/Tirebuck/Mason Bha
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Re: Girls' name 'Rye' or 'Roy'
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 April 08 09:27 BST (UK) »
My grandfather had an aunt Mariah (pronounced Ma-rye-a- never Ma-ria) and her nickname was Riah (pronounced Rye- a) which made me wonder if that could be the name.
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