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Lane family
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:19 BST (UK) »

Hi,  Much to our amazement we have discovered an unknown relative (Arthur Lane) who moved from West Cranmore in Somerset to Wokingham Berkshire in the late 1800's. He died in that area in 1914 leaving a lot of surviving children.  I am trying to work forward on these to see if I have any living relatives in that area. His children are Beatrice, William, Walter, Daisy, Harry, Frank, Ada, Fredrick, Kate and Mabel.  Has anybody any clues that they can offer me on this one.  Several elderly relatives on my branch are very keen to discover unknown cousins.
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:24 BST (UK) »


That looks to be only a portion of your info.

Wherever possible, you should be tracing his kids at least till 1901, then you are much more likely to get a 'bite' on your request.

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Re: Lane family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 April 08 20:14 BST (UK) »

Thanks Pauline for the advice.  Part of the problem is that none of the sons was old enough to be married and have children on the 1901 census.  I have info on four marriages after that date but that can't give me clues to children to try to work forward.
It is frustrating as my mother a few years back took a phone call from a man in that area asking if my father had links.  As this branch was totally unknown she said no and no contact details where taken.  It means that someone is probably doing research that overlaps but nothing is showing up (it may be an older relative using pen and paper).
What I do know is,
Beatrice married in Wokingham in 1904.
William died young.
Walter married in 1901.
Daisy Edith in 1908.
Harry James in 1916 to Daisey E Hatton.
The others have unknown forward clues.
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:29 BST (UK) »


You don't even give an AGE for any of 'em.
As for marriages, you CAN sometimes infer kids from MMN...



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Re: Lane family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:05 BST (UK) »

One birth for you ;

Cyril A Lane Wokingham Mar 1920 2c 911
parents Lane and Hatton

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Re: Lane family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:28 BST (UK) »

You are probably already aware that Walter married either Lillie Paulina Dobson or Henrietta Jemima Gadd.

There is no evidence from children born in Wokingham after 1910 which of these was his wife but if it was Henrietta there is a lot of history around the Gadd family in Wokingham.

There was a James Lane living at 24 Goodchild Road Wokingham in the 1920s.

Do you have any more background information about the Lanes in Wokingham like how they were employed?  I have access to quite a lot material about the town.

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Re: Lane family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 12:44 BST (UK) »

Hi to both of you,
Arthur Lane was a stone mason but occasionally described as monumental mason.
Augusta Ann (nee West, mothers name Hedges) his wife was described as a dressmaker and was the daughter of publicans in Abingdon (in the Market Place).
They married in Abingdon in 1876 but in 1881 on-wards lived in Wokingham. Mays Cottages , London Rd then 89 London Rd when his trade was described as Monumental Mason. By 1901 he was in Oxford Rd but described as a Stone Mason again.
He is recorded as having died in 1914 in Wallingford (is that the local recording district or a possible address?).
Walter was a carpenter (1901).  I had not been able to pin his wifes name, so the two options you have given are interesting.  If it helps, Walter was born in 1881.
Harry James a telegraph messenger (1901).  It does look as if Cyril could be his son, which gives me an excellent step forward.
Thanks both of you for your help, I am fairly new at this and the post in the chat room was a stab in the dark.  I am unsure if people would prefer all the information to start with or if the bare bones hence my only giving brief details.
Adrian.
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 13:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Adrian,

    Dont know if i can help but i have PRs ( parish registers) for Abingdon so if you need

   any help going back with your family before they moved let me know.

              Sue
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 13:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

       Thanks for the offer but I am not actively tracing that side of the family back as they are fairly distant to me. I would however love to know the possible name of the pub that Augusta Ann Lane (nee West) family kept in the Market Place (I am led to believe there are quite a few though).  Her mother's name was also Augusta running the pub in 1861 with her mother (Elizabeth Hedges) also at the same premises.  I have not been able to work out the father.
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 14:26 BST (UK) »

In the 1860s it was fairly unusual for a pub to be licensed in the name of a woman unless she was the widow or daughter of a previous landlord.  For this reason you need to look for the names of close relatives when searching for the pub that they ran.

Looking in the census and local directories are the best place to find who ran the various pubs.

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Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 14:51 BST (UK) »

Hi Adrian,

           David is right as Augusta West was a widow in 1861.

Her daughter Augusta lived with her and also her mother ( Elizabeth Hedges) who is a retired

publican. Sorry havent found out the name of the pub yet but will have a look into it.

Augustas b 1854  parents on the PRs are Timothy Bullon a coachbuilder and Augusta so

her mother must have married a West later. Elizabeth Hedges died in 1863 age 62.


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Re: Lane family
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 15:25 BST (UK) »

Hi,

    I didn't know about the fact that it would have been more likely a man as the publican, but did assume that it in this instance it had been taken over by the wife upon her husbands death.

   That is interesting about the remarriage of Augusta and just goes to show that you have to be careful and get the whole picture.  Would it have been the norm for children of a previous marriage to take on the new father's name without formal adoption (if such a thing took place then) or was it just convenience?  I have both examples within my current relatives so expect things don't change much.
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Re: Lane family
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 15:58 BST (UK) »

Hi Adrian,

            Cant really answer that but can tell you my gr gr grandfather remarried after his wife died and took my gr gr grandmothers daughter as his own. On every document he is down as her father but we know for sure he was not the father. This makes it so difficult in researching your FH
This was in 1873 so not far from the date of your Augusta.  Smiley


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Re: Lane family
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 16:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,

         I am uncertain if its the unravelling of these things that make it fascinating or frustrating.  Hopefully we have the chance to leave a clearer record.

                   Adrian
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