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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 07 April 08 12:45 BST (UK) »

And in 1881

RG11 1090 73 12

Blue Posts 58 North Rd Brighton

Henry Winn 35 Carpenter and Beer Seller bn Lincolnshire Hackington
Ellen wife 37 bn Sx Shermanbury
Elizabeth E 14
Alice K 12
Emily F 7
Robert E 4
all children bn Brighton

presumably Elizabeth E is Ellen in 1891, Alice K is Kate... they dont make it easy for us!
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 April 08 12:49 BST (UK) »

1871
RG10 1082 56 11

53 Mill Hill Street Brighton

Henry Winn 25 Carpenter bn Lincoln Heckington
Ellen 26 bn Sx Shermanbury
Ellen 4 bn Brighton
Alice 2 bn Brighton
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 07 April 08 13:01 BST (UK) »

Bother, I was hoping this trail would lead us to the Winn origins.

But 1861 is not conclusive.

There isnt a Henry giving place of birth as Eckington, Heckington, Hackington or the like.

there is this one, father's occupation looks hopeful:

RG9 2367 94 1
scrambley Linc
John Winn 41 Publican bn grt ?oynton st Peters
Betsey 38  bn Redbouse?
Henry 14 bn Lincoln Conningsbury
Rachel 12 bn Lincoln High Poynton
Kate 2 bn lincoln ??

No sign of a child called John, no sign that they ever went to Leicester...
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 07 April 08 18:54 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Sorry I've not been able to join in more today, its been one of those days.

I only had john WINN and catherine in kasauli  with just five children

katie eliz    b 1870

john willm   b 1874

frank           b 1877

minnie may  b1882

mabel           b 1883

I've assumed that because kasauli is a medical station that john may have been army medical of some sort, but would army personel have wife and children with them at that time ??

I hadn't known about

maude           b 1876  and

harry              b1880

I must as a priority get one of the childrens birth certs to try and find the marriage.

The last few posts have given me so very much to work on as well, I really do thank you all for your help and the time you have given to it. Thanks  Grin  Grin  Grin

David
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 07 April 08 21:15 BST (UK) »

Possibly John and Henry on the IGI, and FreeBMD

Parents William WINN and Elizabeth HORSEPOOL
All born Hecklington, Lincoln - submitted entries
Emma WINN born 1838 - Emma Elizabeth born Jun qtr 1840 Sleaford, 14 482
George WINN born 1842 - Jun qtr 1842 Sleaford, 14 511
John WINN born 1844 - Mar qtr 1844 Sleaford, 14 528
Henry WINN born 1845 - Jun qtr 1845 Sleaford, 14 529

Sleaford registration district covers Heckington in Lincolnshire.

William WINN married Elizabeth HORSEPOOL Sep qtr 1838, Bingham 15 611. Bingham spans Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire

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TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon
FERNANDES, London
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 02:31 BST (UK) »

Ellen was Ellen FOWLER, married Henry WINN at Brighton Dec qtr 1865. His info on FreeBMD is not clear but doing a lookup on the place and folio have come to that result. Plus also the IGI has an Ellen FOWLER baptised at Shermanbury 5 Jun 1843, which ties in age wise in 1871, 1881 and 1891. A bit out on 1901. Her parents were Henry and Ann.

Just found the marriage on the IGI, Henry WINN and Ellen FOWLER, 22 Oct 1865, Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex. No source info so not sure if it is extracted or submitted.

No Catherine FOWLER to Henry and Ann, so she was not Ellen's sister, but probably sister in law.

The only marriage I can see with a John WINN and Catherine is Mar qtr 1868, Liverpool, 8b 13, John WINN and Catherine WHATELEY. There is a Catherine Eliza WHATLEY birth Dec qtr 1843, Newent, 11 359, which could be her. Newent district spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire, Herefordshire and Worcestershire.

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FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon
FERNANDES, London
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 03:01 BST (UK) »

From IGI extracted entry
Katherine Eliza WHATLEY bapt about 10 Sep 1843, Aston Ingham, Hereford, parents Henry Lawson and Anne.

Although not sure if these are the same Catherine/Katherine as John WINN's wife, as Catherine Eliza WHATLEY married William MASEFIELD, 3 Oct 1877 at Great Malvern, Worcester according to IGI.

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CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon
FERNANDES, London
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
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Re: catherine winn, brighton.
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 14:28 BST (UK) »

Hi.

Many thanks for your recent posts Ian, this branch of my family is starting to open up really nicely now.

I have looked at catherine WHATELEY for a while now because of her marriage to a john WINN and she is shown as being involved with catering, all very slight I know, now however because of Glens post on monday it seems she was born in Bristol, our catherine that is ,so its back to the drawing board with that one.

I shall now make it a priority to get one of the childrens birth certs and clear this puzzle up.

I'm very pleased to at last have johns family and birth place, I can hopefully take the line back a generation or two from there.

Regards.

David.

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