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Mowat
« on: Monday 07 April 08 13:07 BST (UK) »

Looking for information on James Mowat, b 4.10.1899 in Caithness who emigrated to New Zealand.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 April 08 17:56 BST (UK) »



   This could be him

Name             Jas Mowat
Date of dep    10 Aug 1922
Port of dep     Southampton
Destination    Wellington New Zealand
D.O.B.            1899 (calculated from age)
Age                23
Sex                 Male
Occ                 Shepherd

James travelled on the ship called Corinthic, hope this helps


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Re: Mowat
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 April 08 18:18 BST (UK) »

Thank you. That is definitely him. Do you know whether he was accompanied by anyone.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 April 08 18:34 BST (UK) »


Not as far as i can see maybe you will find out more about him later from

someone with more knowledge of New Zealand records. 

                Sue

                     
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 April 08 22:51 BST (UK) »


You could start here,

 http://archway.archives.govt.nz/   
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 03:46 BST (UK) »

Hi

Do you have any further information you can supply, regarding your James MOWAT ? 

Does he have a second christian name  ?

Any idea where in NZ he may have settled ?

There are MANY James MOWAT's  !!

In a quick search, I've found half a dozen ... none of whom seem to be the person you are seeking.

Two who appear on the Archives "Archway" site, you can rule out .     Probate records for James MOWAT of Dunedin - died 1906 (a native of Caithness,  but born circa 1823) ... and
James MOWAT - Dunedin - probate date 1945 appears to have died late 1944, was a native of Australia aged 81.
Source:   cemetery records at -    http://www.cityofdunedin.com/public/registers?Burl_form+F

Of 4 records found in Wellington cemeteries - none come close to matching James MOWAT born 1899.

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Re: Mowat
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 08:44 BST (UK) »

Thanks Lu.
James did not have a middle name, and he was definitely born in 1899. He arrived in New Zealand in Wellington. He was a shepherd and his family were mainly involved in agriculture.
I had earmarked the 1945 Dunedin death as a possible but obviously that can be ruled out.
The only other one I found on the Archway site was an Auckland probate dated 1959, but I have not been able to access any other Auckland records online, so far.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 08:49 BST (UK) »

http://www.purewa.co.nz/details.asp?id=47295&type=Cremation
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 11:05 BST (UK) »

Thank you. The age at death would appear to be about 4 years out. I would need to check the death certificate for his parents to be sure. His parents were James Mowat and Helen Sutherland.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 May 08 00:35 BST (UK) »

Hi
I have James Mowat on my family tree, along with his sister Helen, they all came to New Zealand from Caithness Scotland.
Parents Donald Mowat and Margaret Banks.
Donald's parents Alexander Mowat and Mary Lyall.
Sounds like your Mowat family.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 May 08 01:26 BST (UK) »


The only other one I found on the Archway site was an Auckland probate dated 1959


Hi Spittalhill

Mmm ... this 1959 probate (held at Archives - Auckland) looks to be for a retired chap who lived in Tauranga.    Your James would have been about 60 years in '59 ... and probably not yet "retired" ?   (Just a thought  .... and maybe you can rule this one out also) ?

The age at death would appear to be about 4 years out.

Perhaps the "James" at Purewa cemetery which Zephyr found, should not be ruled out totally ?    Whilst there is a 4 year age variance, it needs to be remembered that someone other than James, has provided details for his death record.

Sorry, do wish we could be more helpful ... it's just that there are so many "James Mowat's" to take into account.

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Re: Mowat
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 May 08 02:10 BST (UK) »

There is a number of Mowat's on my tree, thought this may of been a uncle to this James.
Our Mowat family lived in Rangiora, Canterbury, and they changed the name to Mowatt. Donald Mowat was born (1837) in  Huna, Caithness, Scotland.  So far I only have 5 siblings to Donald, (no James at the moment), but he did name one of his son's James.
There is another line of Mowat's from a Isabel Mowat married in 1773 to Alexander Lyall in Dunett, Caithness, Scotland.
It must of been a small town as the Lyall and Mowat families have married a couple of times.
Worth having a look and see if there are any connections, certainly enough of them.
Happy hunting
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 May 08 11:33 BST (UK) »

Thanks Suzy, but I am afraid yours are a different lot of Mowats. Mine seem to be from south of Wick whereas yours are from further north, Dunnet/Huna. My James's parents were James Mowat and Helen Sutherland who lived at Halsary, Latheron. James's grandparents were Alexander Mowat and Elizabeth Brims, and his g-grandparents were Donald Mowat and Helen Oag who married !5 Apr 1794 in Latheron. That is as far back as I have verified information. If there is a connection to yours it will be earlier than this.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 May 08 11:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Suzy, I should have added that Huna and Dunnet were rural crofting/fishing communities, hamlets at most, so you will get the samefamily names cropping up.
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Re: Mowat
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 May 08 11:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Lucy,
I will keep that in mind. I dont know if James married and had family. I would need sight of a marriage or death certificate to confirm whether or not that was him at Purewa.
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