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Gardener
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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 03 February 05 16:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Paul,

Yes, thank you very much, I have found that one.   I think you will find the name is Danks, not Banks.   I can only assume that Mary Ann was the wife of one of Merwin's sons.   I have found 6 children so far:  Edwin <1836>, George 1839, Isaac 1849, Sarah Ann 1851, Maria 12.12.1852 and Joshua <1857>.   I need to find Mary Ann on an earlier census with her husband!

Thanks again.

Jill

Think you are out of luck with this Jill. In 1871 they are at Salop St too (RG10-3010/41)
Moses Perks?,unm,33
Sophia Danks,boarder,wid,60
Mary Ann Hartshorn,boarder,wid,34,nailor
Edwin Hartshorn,grandson,14,fire iron polisher

The 1861 at http://www.griffs4bears.co.uk  has

Superintendant
Registrar's District Registrar's
Sub-District Piece E.D. Ecclesiastical
District
Not Shown Dudley RG 09-2054 2 St. James
 
Residence Detail
309 SHAVERS END


Given Name Family Name Age Grouping
THOMAS DANKS 47 yrs 35760
SOPHIA DANKS 47 yrs 35760
MARY A. HARTSHORN 23 yrs 35761
EDWIN HARTSHORN 3 yrs 35761

Can't tell what relationship Mary Ann is to Thomas, a single letter then "wife" possibly, and to be honest I could not tell if her status was a "W" or something else. Sorry.
In 1861 Merwin's age is clearly 43 so you don't need to worry about that Smiley
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Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 03 February 05 18:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Gardener,

Thank you so much for that, and what a useful site!

It looks to me as if Mary Ann Hartshorn could be the widowed daughter of Thomas & Sophia Danks in the 1861 and by the time of the 1871 she has got herself a boyfriend, i.e. Moses Perks.   I think I now need to be looking for her marriage to a Hartshorn followed by his fairly rapid death.

Many thanks again.

Jill
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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 05 February 05 14:04 UTC (UK) »

Got another one! This chap was a witness at an ancestors wedding in 1885.

Only one match in the 1871 & 1891 census.......

Shadrach Baskerville  (what a name??!!  Grin)

a draper & grocer from Clawton, Devon.

tabitha  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 February 05 11:46 UTC (UK) »


Great findings!

Hack:  'Executioner & Shoe Dealer' is much more interesting than shoe repairer and keycutter (the current bizarre combination) - and it brings new meaning to the words 'Dead Man's Shoes' Cheesy 
Broakham - couple of fine points for you
tabitha - love it love it love it!

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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #34 on: Monday 07 February 05 14:07 UTC (UK) »

Sorry Tabitha, you're getting too close so I'll have to throw in Obadiah Migbrow, a patient in Chesterfield Hospital in 1881.
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Slack - Sheffield/Dbys/Lincs/Notts
Buxton/Oates/Mawhood/Simmonite/Rawson/Coombs/Dunk/Wilson/Bramham/Briggs/Cowley/Kay/Leesley/Sarson/White - all mainly Sheffield area


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« Reply #35 on: Monday 07 February 05 14:35 UTC (UK) »

Do family 'businesses' count?  -  George Broadhurst - knocker up  and his wife Elizabeth - midwife.  Wink   1881 census - Ecclesall Bierlow.
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Slack - Sheffield/Dbys/Lincs/Notts
Buxton/Oates/Mawhood/Simmonite/Rawson/Coombs/Dunk/Wilson/Bramham/Briggs/Cowley/Kay/Leesley/Sarson/White - all mainly Sheffield area


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« Reply #36 on: Monday 07 February 05 19:10 UTC (UK) »

Well, broakham, a well-earned point for Obadiah but AS YOU WELL KNOW  Wink there are over a hundred knocker uppers in 1881 - though George may well indeed be the only one married to a midwife! Grin

keep the coming!

Paul

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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 21:53 UTC (UK) »

Okey Dokey.....get ready......Broakham are you reading?  Cheesy

1881 - Elf Bradley, born abt 1877, Isleworth.

1901 - Tiger Clarke, aged 14, Beccles.

1891 - Spud Murphey, 31, Stockton on Tees,

1881 - Spud S. Fox, 6, Minterne Magna.

1901 - Waltz Horley, 33, Tottenham, a baker.

and last but not least.....

1881 - Mouse  Regan, born abt 1834, living in Chelsea.......occupation Rat catcher!

tabitha  Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 22:01 UTC (UK) »

Now that looks like a GAUNTLET if ever I saw one!

6 points and I can;t work out which is my favoutirte Tabitha -Tiger Clarke wins it for me though, because of a possible family connection!

Well done!

Paul

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« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 22:53 UTC (UK) »

One more and that's it!!!

1891 - Harrison Ford, 30, a servant in West Heslerton, Yorkshire.

I knew he was getting on abit........ Grin Grin Grin

tabitha

I'm going to do some "proper" research now....if I can remember how!  Wink
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Bevan, Hill, Tustin, Watkins, Teague (Herefordshire, Radnorshire). Rockett, Lillycrap, Govett, Gready, Saunders (Somerset). Sussex, Smale (Devon). Oliver, Kennedy, Cummings, Wright (Co. Durham). Farish (Cumberland, Scotland). Cox (London, Middlessex, Buckinghamshire).
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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 10 February 05 00:16 UTC (UK) »

Tabitha
      After being battered round the ring I think Harrison Ford is a knock- out blow.

Another victory to the fairer sex  Embarrassed Cry

Regards - Broakham
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Slack - Sheffield/Dbys/Lincs/Notts
Buxton/Oates/Mawhood/Simmonite/Rawson/Coombs/Dunk/Wilson/Bramham/Briggs/Cowley/Kay/Leesley/Sarson/White - all mainly Sheffield area


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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 10 February 05 00:18 UTC (UK) »

I have this diabolical trio:
Seedes Satan, a fireman [!] on the SS city of Baltimore in dock at Birkenhead.
Walter Devil, a 13 year old servant of Whiston Staffs and
Jane Imp, 25 year old servant of North Mundham, Sussex.
 Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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« Reply #42 on: Thursday 10 February 05 00:27 UTC (UK) »

oh broakham.....please don't be defeated!  Undecided

Hack, I did find a God Someoneorother that wouldv'e gone well with your selection.....unfortunately I had to admit to myself it looked like an abbreviation!  Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 10 February 05 02:39 UTC (UK) »


That's strange.   I have her as Maria Hartshorn age 20 in the 1841, Mirven Hartshorn age 33 in the 1851, in 1861 she is Merwin Hartshorne/Nail Maker age 48 (which is confusing in itself) and in 1871 she is Merwin M., age 53.   The same address, St. James Terrace, Dudley for all censuses.   I haven't seen the images.   

On the IGI Christening records for her children she becomes Murwin Maria and I have this week found her death, in Sheffield in January 1901 and I sent for the certificate yesterday.

I haven't yet found her on the 1881 or 1891 so maybe she is one of those you have found?


Ok I found her in 1881 living at 23 St James, Terrace Dudley

Name has been transcribed at Alervin Hartshorn and a "male"
as well.

Paul do I get at least point she/he is the only Alervin in anywhere.

Genni
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Re: Censuswhack
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 10 February 05 07:27 UTC (UK) »

Gennig - you not only receive a well-earned point, you may probably find that JillJ wants to express her eternal gratitude - what a find! (Even beats my Conrad / Leonard mistranscription found earlier this week!).

Hack - I think a bonus point for the elegant symmetry we have come to expect of you, plus three makes four!

Broakham - it ain't over until the fat lady sings!

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tabitha                10
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Hackstaple           6
broakham             4
kat                        1
gennig                   1

There's an extra point going for anyone who can tell me how to get my columns lined up! Smiley


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