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w105uk aka Margi :-)
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no 3 
still 1841, cos got lots to look up.
Fenn Fenning HO107/1018/19
thought i'd look at 1851 but they've multiplied lol
there's 2 of them
1861
woohoo
just the 1 Fenn Fenning RG9/1156
1871 2 again  and in 1881
1891 Fenn Fenning RG12/1464
1901 none
so is that 3 censuswhacks
or just the 1?
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Brook,Suffolk, London,Nottingham.
Goodchild, Suffolk
Boreham,Suffolk
Youngman, Suffolk, Australia
Day, Suffolk
Beckett, Suffolk
Last, Suffolk
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Comosus
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I think I've found a total census whack....
HO107/711/5 1841
D Shannono Child
Not sure if it counts because they obviously haven't come up with a name yet.
or there's "A Man Not Know Name" 
HO107/569/5 1841
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewsbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Comosus
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Israel Stock(h)ill b1850. He's my first cousin 4 times removed.
Andrew
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewsbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Koromo
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There must be countless Censuswhacks on the 1841. This one is quite ridiculous!
HO107/39/23/5/5
Etelyncupirdby R Franklin, living in Worminghall, Buckinghamshire.
Image = lately occupied by R Fanklin
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Comosus
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Do I have a complete censuswhack with my GGGG Grandparents Dennis and Matilda Turvey? The closest I have found is their granddaughter Ellen Matilda Turvey.
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewsbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Paul E
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Ah, the arcane rules of censuswhackery!
I'm afraid a 'total censuswhack' is only possible if both the first and second names are unique (not the combination of the two, Comosus ).
By the same token, there are almost 1300 Israels in the 1841, 55 Stockills and 15 Stockhills, and similar numbers in 1851, so the International Federation would not count this as a Censuswhack I'm afraid. The same would hold true of the Turvey's.
BUT (!) there are no other Shannonos (curiously!) so this IS a Censuswhack!
Etelyncupirby is wonderful, and a clear Censuswhack - I wonder if any of the Indian transcribers of the 1841 thought 'Hey that's a lovely name, I think I'll christen my next one after them!'
Now then, are we all clear about the rools? 
cheers
Paul
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Manchester Rambler
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Definitely a one-and-only - neither first nor last name occurs elsewhere on any census!
Hoplingaboh Proadboar - St Swithin, Lincolnshire, 1841
(My own guess from the image is a very poor stab at Hephzibah...  )
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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w105uk aka Margi :-)
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Arthur Aryasbes Boreham
just the 1 in 1901
real name Arthur Augustus Boreham
is that a census whack
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Brook,Suffolk, London,Nottingham.
Goodchild, Suffolk
Boreham,Suffolk
Youngman, Suffolk, Australia
Day, Suffolk
Beckett, Suffolk
Last, Suffolk
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Paul E
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Well, I can't find Moubilou on any of the Ancestry censuses.
But Arthur definitely makes it in 1901 - and there are no other Aryasbes' in the other censuses (rather surprisingly!  )
Nice to see you keeping your hand in, MR!
Paul
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JAP
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Paul E,
I'm thinking that there might well need to be two separate Censuswhack competitions.
1. Ancestry transcription Censuswhacks
2. Other Censuswhacks
#1 is probably much more fun but #2 is perhaps a bit purer?
JAP
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Paul E
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Hi JAP
This has been the subject of heated debate at previous International Congresses. The consensus seemed to be that the verification process for what some UK delegates called 'Pure' censuswhacks was beyond the Federation's powers. So much depended on an individual's determination of handwriting, that arguments might run and run. The general feeling, therefore, was that the following indexes could be used:
National Archives 1901
Ancestry 1841 - 1901
Family Search - 1881
A bit restricting, I am sure you would agree. Might be worth a motion to the 2007 Congress, if you feel strongly about it, JAP. But I wouldn;t hold your breath.
cheers
Paul
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JAP
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Hi Paul E,
I take it from your post that the Federation has weakly chosen to adopt an easy formulaic methodology based on extremely doubtful sources 
Unfortunately, due to exigencies of time and distance, I find myself unable to promote this important policy matter despite the attention it so obviously demands at the next International Congress.
I trust that another RootsChatter with concern for the integrity and good name of Censuswhacking will step forward to fight the good fight
JAP
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carol8353
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I've just found a Crasmas Beynon in Devon in the 1851 census sample.
When the full census came out he'd been transcribed as Cosmas and by 1861 and onwards he goes by his real name of Erasmus.
On the 1871 there's a Bgman Beynon.Haven't found what he should really be yet!
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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