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carlT
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1841 census stockport *completed*
« on: Tuesday 08 April 08 11:41 BST (UK) »

Hello,
looking for a Jane Challoner 40 ish, at Brinksway place, Heaton Norris, Stockport.
I have very little else to go on.
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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 April 08 18:49 BST (UK) »

Hi CarlT

I've had a quick look for you but I can't find anyone suitable at all.

Sorry

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JONES,DRURY,CHESHIRE,LATHAM,EDWARDS North Wales Cheshire.  BOWKER,TOWLER Yorks,Lancs.  WILLIAMSON,GEE Cheshire. HOLMES Staffs. PERKS,LEWIS Salop. TURNER,GRACE,SAGER Lancs. KNAPPY Yorks.BURROUGH somerset.BOWKER,STAHAN Canada
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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 April 08 19:52 BST (UK) »

Carl, could this be the family?  Spelling is Challinor. Prestbury is very near to Stockport.
Prestbury, Macclesfield.  HO/107. Piece 131 Book 12.  Note  only the youngest child born in County.   All children have last name of Challinor
Simon Challinor 35 Earthenware Dealer
Jane Challinor    30
Joseph        "       14
Mary 11
Jane 9
Eliza   7
Elizabeth 5
Thomas 3
Mary 8months
Don't know why there are two Marys unless one is transcribed incorrectly.
Hope this helps.
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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 April 08 22:36 BST (UK) »

I hope the Prestbury one is suitable although it's not very close to Heaton Norris.  Also, bear in mind that Heaton Norris comes under Lancashire in the 1841 census under Manchester! 

I'd love to know how you think it is Brinksway Place, was it on a certificate or something else?

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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 08 08:23 BST (UK) »

Hello,
I have a death certificate of 1837 for a daughter called Jane, she died when she was 19.
the address was 78, Brinksway Place, Heaton Norris.
Stockport Library had difficulty identifying the place as well?

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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:37 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I found this,

1841  HO107/582/6  f.23  p.2     Manchester
Borough:  Stockport
Township:  Heaton Norris
Howard's Square
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Jane CHALINER      60    Ind                            N
William    "  "        20  Cotton Piecer                 N
Samuel    "  "       15  Cotton power loom tents   Y
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Edward  HORSLEY    25  Cotton Piecer            Y 
Robert       "  "        20   Cotton Piecer           Y
Ann  ENTWISTLE     20   Cotton P.L Weaver    Y
Elizabeth   "  "          9months                       N
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I realise that Jane is older than you asked for but she does seem to have children around the same age as the daughter Jane who died, if you don't mind me asking where did you get Jane Snr's age of 40'ish?


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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 April 08 16:53 BST (UK) »

Hello Daisy,
this does look to be Jane, i,m afraid my guestimation was a little out.
she does have a son William baptised 1.4.1821 at Cheadle St Mary, he would have been 20 in 1841? and a Son Samual baptised 5.8.1827 at Cheadle St Mary, to what could be herself, maybe suggesting her husband Joseph may have died sometime during her pregnancy?
She married Joseph Challiner at Cheadle St Marys on the 24.12.1809.
I looked at her marriage she may have been 20ish by 1841 she may have been late 40ish? nearer 50ish then - I never was any good at 11 plus maths.
would you agree, this looks like her?
I have been looking for her a while now, my confusion has been, they have another Son George, baptised 3.7.1814 (this one I know all about) he married at Prestbury Church in 1838 to a Jane Henshall. On the certificate it has Fathers name Joseph Challiner. it doesn't state deceased, so I have always assumed he was still alive?
is this right to take these things for granted, as Joseph cannot be found on the 1841 census?any thoughts?
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 April 08 13:11 BST (UK) »

Hi,

This looks like Jane in 1851,


1851  HO107/2155  f.341  p.6  Heaton Norris
335 Howard's Buildgs

Jane CHALENOR     Head  Wid  66  Domestic Duties             Lancashire Denton
Samuel    "  "         Son    U    23  Bricklayer                         "  "    Heaton Norris
Martha JOLLIFFE  Lodger  U    32  Winder Cotton Mill              Cheshire Stockport
Martin BAYLEY    Lodger   U    25  Power Loom Weaver Cotton    "  "    Cheadle
Emma JOLLIFFE   Lodger   U     5   Scholar                               "  "    Stockport


it helps narrow down her date and place of birth.

I have seen marriage certs where it doesn't show a dead father as deceased and even one or two where it says deceased while father is still alive and kicking, so I would'nt rule out that Joseph died before 1838.


This could be her death,

Jane CHALLENER    Mar Q 1855    Stockport    8a  51

maybe if someone could find her burial she might be with Joseph Undecided


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Re: 1841 census stockport
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 April 08 14:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Daisy,
thanks this is very helpful, and at last I have her birthplace.
Hopefully Joseph will follow.

                                   thanks again
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