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census 1851+61 - EMERY
« on: Tuesday 08 April 08 16:12 BST (UK) »

I am just double checking that I have the right family please could someone check the 1851 and 61 censuses for Chalton Bedford for me please?
I am looking for Kitty Emery born 1824 and her mother Mary Emery born 1800 in Godmanchester,

Best Wishes Bethan
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Re: census 1851+61
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 16:58 BST (UK) »




   Mary b 1800 Godmanchester is ....

  RG9/994 F 40 P 19  IN 1861 .....Sandy Beds

  James Emery hd m 61  ag lab    Blunham
  Mary              wi m61   Needlewoman Godmanchester
Rebecca         dau u 26 lace maker   Chalton
Sarah             dau u 21   d/o                 d/o
Henretta        dau u 15    d/o                d/o
Asidia ?         g/dau u 2                      Biggleswade.

    Will look for 1851  ...no Kitty with them in 1861 ...

                             Tazzie
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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 17:11 BST (UK) »




   Not sure they tie in with the Kitty you need . There is also a prison report on Kitty Emery wife of Peter Emery ....will look at that as well....

  Mary b Godmanchester here in 1841 ho107/9 book 2 f 10  p13

  James Emery  40
  Mary               40
  James             15
  Caroline          14
  Eli                    12
Levi                  10
Mary                  8
Rebecca             6
Susanna            3
Sarah                 5 months   all born in county

  Living Blunham Beds

    1851    Ho107/1753 f 55 p 15

    James Emmery  hd m 50   ag lab       Moggerhanger
    Mary                  wi m 49                     Godmanchester     
  Caroline                   u 22   lace maker     Beds
  Elizabeth                 u 20      d/o               Moggerhanger
  Mary A                     u 18       d/o                      d/o
Rebecca                    u 16      d/o                      d/o
Susan                        u 14     d/o                     d/o
Sarah                         u 10    d/o                     d/o
Henerietta                  u 6     d/o                     d/o

   Living Blunham Beds


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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 17:31 BST (UK) »




   Having said that the prison description lists Mary as Married with 9 Children.

  In 1841 she has 8 at home by 1851 the 2 boys have left and one girl has been born so thats 9.

   Kitty.....for Catherine normally ....and there is a Catherine Emery of Blunham age 23 in 1847 who stands charged with house breaking and "Kitty" has two previous convictions as stated on her record. So is her record also the one who again in 1847 stole a box of wearing apparel and was sentanced to 2 months hard labour.  If so she was the wife of Peter Emery but trial record does not say where she comes from .


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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 19:20 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for all your help Tazzie, you have been  really kind.
My line comes down from James Emery the son, but I was curious to find out more about Kitty because in 1854 she and Mary Emery were accused of murdering a child(Bedford Goal Site).
It is possible that she was the daughter-in-law of Mary Emery and not the daughter as I first thought.
I have checked a few of the newspaper sites to see if there was any mention of the trial, but have not found anything yet.
According to the Bedford Goal Site the records of the trial are at the National Archives, but I have not worked out how to use that site yet.
If all else fails I will try contacting Bedford Library to see if there was any local news coverage at the time.
Thank you again for all your help/ Best Wishes Bethan
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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 19:37 BST (UK) »




   What year was your James born....as I cannot see a James with this couple only Levi & Eli?

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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 20:18 BST (UK) »

Tazzie   James was born 1825 or 26, in fact you have him in the 1841 census.
It is definitely the right family, I am just trying to work out how Kitty was related
It is a bit of a puzzle!

Best Wishes Bethan
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Re: census 1851+61 - EMERY
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 09:16 BST (UK) »




   Brain storm there couldn't read me own typing Roll Eyes  yep James .

  As you say who is Kitty..... normally short for Catherine/Katherine. Nearest they have is Caroline. On the murder charge it states the two previous so does  that relate to 1847.

  I would contact the archives as they were helpful when I was tracking a Favell rellie who was a horse thief, once I got more info it was not my William who was involved.

  Let me know how you get on .

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