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Topic: looking for any infro on John Payne,born,around(1725) (Read 1454 times)
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kerryb
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Did the Edward born 1790 marry a Mary?
I have seen a couple of census returns for an Edward and Mary with mother - Jane which fits and its just clicked this could be the right Edward and the right Jane.
Kerry
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sarahmlife
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Hi Kerry  ,
Yes my Edward born 1790 did marry a Mary, Mary Norman born 1789, I think after Edward(1756/1759?) died she was living with her eldest Son Edward(1790) and His wife Mary Norman and also A Grandson Benejamin Payne (1824) who was Elizabeth paynes(1801) Son, I looked them up in the 1851 cenus and found it, also I looked in the 1841 one and it was just Jane(i.e. Jenny Jane Chapman) and Edward(1790) and the grandson.
Im not sure why Benejamin was living with his granmother and not his mum Elizabeth, have to try and find that one out.
Sarah
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The paynes of East Grinstead(Sussex),Lingfield(Surrey) and Warlingham(Surrey), The Wares of Lambeth (London) and Croydon(Surrey), The Bucklands of Croydon(Surrey),the Bishops of Lingfield,(surrey) and Brighton(Sussex),The Thrussells of Kings walden and st Paul's Walden(Hertfordshire),Lanhams of Felstead Essex and Yorkshire, Tuxworths of Lincolnshire, French's ,and many more.......................
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kerryb
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Hi Sarah
Ype that's the one I found, and looks like Jane died 1857 and Edward (1790) died 1859. So Edward (1790) was brother to my John born 1807 in Lingfield who was my 3x great grandfather.
Kerry
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sarahmlife
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Hi Kerry ,
I made a mistake on the Grandsons brithdate(Benjamin payne) it was 1821 not 1824. I had a little look on genes reunited again and Ive got a family tree on there with peter wevers family tree and all the paynes are on there.
Sarah
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The paynes of East Grinstead(Sussex),Lingfield(Surrey) and Warlingham(Surrey), The Wares of Lambeth (London) and Croydon(Surrey), The Bucklands of Croydon(Surrey),the Bishops of Lingfield,(surrey) and Brighton(Sussex),The Thrussells of Kings walden and st Paul's Walden(Hertfordshire),Lanhams of Felstead Essex and Yorkshire, Tuxworths of Lincolnshire, French's ,and many more.......................
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ps: thanks for the death dates i will add them to my genes reunited site.
Sarah
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The paynes of East Grinstead(Sussex),Lingfield(Surrey) and Warlingham(Surrey), The Wares of Lambeth (London) and Croydon(Surrey), The Bucklands of Croydon(Surrey),the Bishops of Lingfield,(surrey) and Brighton(Sussex),The Thrussells of Kings walden and st Paul's Walden(Hertfordshire),Lanhams of Felstead Essex and Yorkshire, Tuxworths of Lincolnshire, French's ,and many more.......................
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kerryb
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Hi Sarah
Some of the rootschatter gang have what we call a scavenger hunt and mine a couple of weeks ago was on my Payne family http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,294626.0.html we found most census returns and some information on the children of Edward and Jane which if you haven't already got, you might find useful.
You have to wade through quite a lot of information but it could be useful.
Kerry
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Sarah,
The burials I sent Kerry are on the Sussex OPC website. http://www.sussex-opc.org/
Go to Burials, then put in East Grinstead in the parish box and you can search by surname now as well, which saves trawling through all 1500 entries.
Kerry (and Sarah),
When I was doing the look-ups for the Scavenger Hunt I extracted all the Payne burials for 1840 to 1867, to save a bit of future work  .
If I get time over the weekend, I will post them on this thread for you both.
Phil
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kerryb
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IHaving looked at Sarah's tree on GR I am now becoming convinced this is not my family at all. 
I've been back through my early notes when I started doing my family history and I know someone told me my John Payne born 1807 was son of Edward and Jane. I remember viewing their tree. But according to my research he married Sarah Kesterton in 1834 Lingfield and this tallies up with his son John born 1844 my great great grandfather.
However Sarah has John Payne born 1807 marrying Milly Gorridge.
I looked at all the census returns I now have for my John Payne and they all say born Lingfield, not East Grinstead. So I think its back to the drawing board for me. I shall somehow have to make a search of the Lingfield parish registers and see if I can find a baptism for John there. 
Kerry
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Payne burials at St Swithuns, East Grinstead, 1840 to 1867, as promised.
The format is: Register entry number, name, abode, date of burial, age.
80; Elizabeth Payne; Lambeth, Surrey; 21 Dec 1841; 21 yrs
105; John Payne; EG; 27 Apr 1842; 49 yrs
110; Sarah Payne; EG; 18 May 1842; 32 yrs
256; Robert Payne; EG; 26 Oct 1844; 83 yrs
297; Mary Ann Payne; EG; 30 Apr 1845; 83 yrs
342; Sarah Payne; EG; 24 July 1845; 21 yrs
372; Mary Payne; EG; 15 Aug 1846; 89 yrs
550; Sarah Payne; EG; 10 Jan 1849; 14 yrs
559; James Payne; EG; 17 Feb 1849; 50 yrs
598; Alice Payne; EG; 27 Aug 1849; 41 yrs
608; Sarah Payne; EG; 27 Oct 1849; 65 yrs
659; William Payne; EG; 3 Oct 1850; Infant
687; Susanna Payne; EG; 3 July 1851; 56 yrs
699; Charles Payne; Parish of Lingfield; 8 Sept 1851; 79 yrs
..............more to follow later.
Phil
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kerryb
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Thanks Phil
Very useful.
I'm going to pop into Lingfield Library on Thursday afternoon when the volunteers are in and check out the parish registers to see if I can find the parents of my John Payne born 1807. I will report back if I am successful.
Kerry
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.................and here's the next lot..............
761; Elizabeth Payne; Ashurst Wood; 31 March 1853; 49 yrs
765; Mary Payne; Chapel Lane; 10 Apr 1853; 53 yrs
766; Mary Ann Payne; Chevaliers Gnd; 10 Apr 1853; 2 yrs
810; John Payne; Grinstead Common; 6 April 1854; 2 yrs
826; John Brown Payne; EG; 12 May 1854; 17 yrs
849; George Payne; Wellington Town; 5 Sept 1854; Infant
849; Eliza Payne; Church Lane; 25 Nov 1854; Infant
880; Edward Payne; Maresfield, Sussex; 28 Feb 1855; 74 yrs
885; Elizabeth Payne; Lingfield, Surrey; 10 Mar 1855; 78 yrs
917; Ellen Payne; Grinstead Comon; 15 Jan 1856; Infant
964; Jane Payne; Grinstead Common; 25 Feb 1857; 89 yrs
1015; Sarah Ann Payne; Church Lane; 22 Feb 1858; 35 yrs
1032; Henry Chapman Payne; Chapel Lane; 11 May 1858; 1 yr
...................one more batch to follow...........
I could do with going to Lingfield some time as well Kerry, to sort out a few more of the Gattons.
Phil
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...............the last batch..............
1122; Edward Payne; Worth Poorhouse; 21 Nov 1859; 72 yrs
1160; John Payne; EG; 9 Oct 1860; 67 yrs
1165; Frances(?) Payne; EG; 4 Nov 1860; 39 yrs
1169; Robert Payne; EG; 30 Nov 1860; 41 yrs
1315; Emily Payne; Church Lane; 20 Apr 1863; 20 yrs
1378; Harry Payne; EG; 27 June 1864; 5 weeks
1380; Henry William Payne; EG; 14 July 1864; 3 yrs
1540; Elizabeth Snatt Payne; EG; 13 Dec 1867; 27 yrs
.........and that's the lot!!
I hope you both find something useful amongst that lot.
Phil
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kerryb
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1857 - that looks like Jane married to Edward so useful to Sarah.
Thanks Phil
Kerry
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Hi phil and Kerry ,
Thanks phil for the records there have been very useful, I have alot to put on my family tree now. Kerry I hope you are sucuessful at Lingfield libarry, let me now how it goes.
Sarah
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kerryb
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Certainly will Sarah, my guess is that the lingfield Paynes were once connected to the East Grinstead Paynes but maybe further back than I first was led to believe.
Kerry
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