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DebbieG
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1851 look-up John PAYTON & family
« on: Wednesday 09 April 08 10:29 BST (UK) »

Hi I am putting this here cos although in 1861 they are in Somerset according to the childrens birth places in 1851 they should be in Wiltshire - but I can't seem to see them, can anyone find this family from 1861, in 1851 please

from 1861 census Marston Bigot - Nunney, Somerset

John Payton 44 Game keeper born Standewick Somerset
Sarah Payton 43 born Wiltshire cornley?
John Payton 17 " (John Samuel Payton)reg Warminster)
Jane Payton 11 "
Elizabeth Payton 7 "
Charlotte Payton 3 born somerset Marston Bigot

the place of birth given for SArah may be wrong as in later census's she says she was born in Buckinhamshire (if it's the same Sarah)

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 10:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Debbie - it doesnt really matter where you post this request, the search will use the params you provide to locate them.

Lets have a look ...


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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 10:52 BST (UK) »

they seem particulary reluctant to reveal themselves !

I have a vague memory of Corsely (Warminster) being absent from Ancestry's 1851 implementation ?

Anybody got FMP version ?

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:12 BST (UK) »

I do not have access to the census but did find baptisms for the two children born Corsley, Wilts to John and Sarah Payton.

John christened 26 Oct, 1845
Jane christened 13 Mar, 1850

Both are extractions from the parish record.

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:53 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that Beth but I do have the entries from the IGI, I have found the family in Corsely in 1841 with 2 older children James born 1838 and Thomas born 1840 but all it says is that non of them were born in Wiltshire, I was hoping to find the family in 1851 to find the birth places of James & Thomas, who were baptised at the same time as John in 1845 in Corsley.

Thanks for looking Newfster - at least I know now its not me doing something stupid, is that bit just missing from ancestry ? or is it missing from the census full stop? do you know?

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:59 BST (UK) »

Hi Debbie,

There is no 1851 census on FMP availiable to view as yet so im unable to help you

with your request.

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:04 BST (UK) »

Its not noted as 'Missing or Wanted' in the Nat Archives Catalog - its shown as a hamlet in the Warminster PIECE #1843.

So, if there is anybody with Wilts 1851 on CD, now would be a good time to exercise it !

or maybe The Genealogist site has it ?


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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:24 BST (UK) »

Looking at the census for 1881 where Sarah says she is from Buckingham, I note that she has also become significantly younger than John. In addition she also has an 11 year old daughter which would not have been possible had she just been fibbing about her age.

A Sarah Payton died Frome, JAS 1862 Vol 5c Page 298

John Payton married Sarah Jane Stanford, OND 1863 Frome Vol 5c Page 997

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:48 BST (UK) »

Here you go - this might be them

HO107/1843/26 p13 ? ED1 schedule 60 Chapmanslade?

John Payton 36 b Standerwick Somerset
Sarah 35 b Corsley
James 13 Ag. Lab. b Corsley
Thomas 10 Scholar b Corsley
John 7 Scholar b Corsley
Ann 4 b Corsley
Jane 1 b Corsley

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:54 BST (UK) »

Ohhh thank you Nell that certainly looks like them great stuff Grin

and thank you for the information on the second marriage Beth I hadn't noticed that, but of course that nicely explains the change of birth place on his wife

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:56 BST (UK) »

Nell - If you are still around can I be cheeky and ask if you can see any of this lot in 1851

from 1841 census Corsely

Samuel Payton 64 farmer UK
Alice Payton 60
Josep 30
Jesse 27
Charlotte 24
Samuel 19
Emily 5

all but Samuel born in county

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 13:00 BST (UK) »

surprisingly close those villages of Standerwick, Chapmanslade and Corsely ...... right on the county boundary.


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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 13:03 BST (UK) »

I'm looking, but not seeing at the moment. This may take some time................ if any of them are there. Was it Samuel senior not born in Wiltshire?

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 13:07 BST (UK) »

Hi - thanks Nell

Yes Samuel senior - its says UK which I presume is unknown

In 1841 they are a few doors from John & family

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Re: 1851 look-up John Payton & family
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 13:10 BST (UK) »

I have jsut checked the 1841 again - it gives them as being in Chapmanslade in the parish of Corsley.

Samuel snr is a farmer

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