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Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« on: Thursday 10 April 08 08:33 BST (UK) »

Help please!  I am trying to find Agnes Divall's husband....... I have found two possibilities in the BMD.  I have tried various combinations in the censuses after the marriage date, but nothing seems to fit!

This is what I have found :

Registered September 1869 :

 BIGNELL  Thomas    Reigate  2a 223   
Budgen  John     Reigate  2a 223   
Divall  Agnes     Reigate  2a 223     
GUMBRELL  Rhoda     Reigate  2a 223

Agnes was born in 1850 in Nutfield, Surrey. Parents James Divall and Emily Randall.

I would be very grateful if someone could sort it out for me.

Many thanks

Tilly

ps - I've tried IGI, but they have nothing under Agnes Divall................
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Lancaster - L. Buzzard     Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer - Fulham
Clifford - London, Sussex, S Africa, Berkshire   
Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 April 08 08:46 BST (UK) »

1871 census RG10 830 119
Court at Back of Bell North Vale Reigate Foreign Surrey
John Budgen 25  Head Married General Labourer Godstone Surrey
Agnes Budgen 21 Wife Married Family Cook Nutfield Surrey
Alice Budgen 1 Daughter Redhill Surrey
next door is probably John's mother and brother

1881 the family is still in Reigate RG11 798 folio 158

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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 April 08 12:06 BST (UK) »

Hello Valda

Thank  you very much for the information - however, I can find them in 1881, but still cannot see them in 1871. I have put in all the info you gave me, but still nothing comes up (I am using Ancestry). Any idea what I am doing wrong?  I've read through quite a few pages, but still can't find Agnes, John or alice............... Huh

thanks again

Tilly

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Lancaster, Perryer - Fulham
Clifford - London, Sussex, S Africa, Berkshire   
Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 April 08 13:18 BST (UK) »

Ancestry has it misindexed as Bridgen

Just put in Agnes, born 1850 give or take a yr or so, and Nutfield, - and she will come up
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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:01 BST (UK) »

Hello Lizdb

Many thanks - I've got it!!

One more question - the name of the district "Reigate Foreign" - does it have any particular significance ?

thank you for your help.

Tilly
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Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:41 BST (UK) »

Outside the jurisdiction of the town of Reigate.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,242618.0.html

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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:50 BST (UK) »

Hello Valda

I've just read the thread.......... very interesting!

Many thanks

Tilly
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Lancaster, Perryer - Fulham
Clifford - London, Sussex, S Africa, Berkshire   
Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:57 BST (UK) »

I wondered about that too, so found this interesting.

But the Bell in Reigate is right in the centre, well Bell Street is - that is the Main Street through the middle, so I wondered why this address was Reigate Foreign.
Not that it really matters, just curious.
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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:58 BST (UK) »

And it is still there
Third one down on
http://www.reigate-banstead.gov.uk/public/Leisure/Tourism/Eating_Out/Pubs_Bars/4-16810.asp
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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 April 08 17:01 BST (UK) »

Scroll down on this one and there is lots more info, history and pictures
http://www.redhill-reigate-history.co.uk/pubs%20of%20reigate.htm
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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 April 08 19:05 BST (UK) »

Hello Liz

Thank you for all the links - I shall read them later tonight!  As you say, it is strange that Reigate is listed as "Foreign" if it's in the centre.......... I thought the "Bell" was a pub and that they lived in the courtyard behind it.................

thank you again for your help

Tilly
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Lancaster - L. Buzzard     Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer - Fulham
Clifford - London, Sussex, S Africa, Berkshire   
Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 April 08 07:38 BST (UK) »

The family were in Reigate foreign not Reigate on both the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses. Therefore Redhill not Reigate.

'Bell North Street Redhill
Stood opposite the old Test Centre. Demolished 1958/59. May have had an ale house associated with it, perhaps located as a separate building at the rear.
Situated in North Street, Redhill (street address approx no 39). A beer retailer and later a public house circa 1900 when George Charman was landlord. Later demolished. The Reigate petty-sessional report 1892 described the property as a beerhouse, licensed prior to 1869; owned by Charles Dagnall of Horley, brewer, and tied by trade to the Hornchurch Brewery Co. The tavern was run by C Aldridge who resided on the premises. The Inn was frequented by Cottagers and gardeners. (Charles Dagnall was plying his trade from the Five Bells, Horley, where there was a brewhouse attached.)'


http://www.redhill-reigate-history.co.uk/pubs%20of%20redhill.htm

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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 April 08 08:59 BST (UK) »

Thanks VAlda, that is interesting. Never heard of the Bell in Redhill. Nor would have thought that Redhill would come under Reigate Foreign.

But ..... the pub iin Horley is called the Six Bells, not the Five Bells! honest - I used to live a stone's throw from it.

http://www.reigate-banstead.gov.uk/public/Leisure/Tourism/Pics/Six_Bells.asp
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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 April 08 09:40 BST (UK) »

The address of the family in 1891 is Linkfield Street, Reigate Eastern Ward, St Matthew's parish Redhill (a household away from the 'White Lion')

1891 census RG12 578 folio 122

The address on the 1881 census was Linkfield Street, Reigate Foreign, Eastern Ward, St Matthew's parish (several households away from the 'White Lion').

'White Lion 40 Linkfield Street
A 16c building with first mention in the 17th century. Said to be the oldest building in continuous use as licensed premises in the Borough.'


http://www.redhill-reigate-history.co.uk/pubs%20of%20redhill.htm

Including photographs of the White Lion.

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Re: Agnes Divall - marriage - which one??
« Reply #14 on: Friday 11 April 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

Hello Valda and Liz

Thank you again for the information.

I am off on holiday tonight for two weeks, so I will not be able to reply if there are any other messages posted - so I "thank you" in advance, just in case.

Tilly Smiley
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Lancaster - L. Buzzard     Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer - Fulham
Clifford - London, Sussex, S Africa, Berkshire   
Divall - Ssx   Randall - Ssx, Surrey    
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk           Burke - Co Clare
Duliscouet,   Le Stanguennec,   Le Clanche - Brittany


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