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Look up please. John William Hoggart. Complete
« on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:23 BST (UK) »

Hello,

Can anyone find John William Hoggart born Dec 1858 in Stokesley N. Yorkshire for me?
His unmarried  Mother Dinah died 1859 so who he is with after that l have no idea.

Thanks in anticipation

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:33 BST (UK) »

 Sad

John W Hoggett 2 Infant Stokesley

In the Stokesley workhouse
RG9/3657 Folio 77 Page 29
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Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 April 08 15:43 BST (UK) »

Hello CatOne,

Thanks for that, I only found of his existence this morning! Here we go

Thanks a lot

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:11 BST (UK) »

There is another John William born virtually the same time, who is quite easily traceable through the censuses, but I've had difficulty finding yours in later censuses. I wonder if this is him in 1871 -

John Wm Johnson 11 Adopted son Scholar Stokesley
in house of -
Ann Johnson unmar 56 No occupation Stokesley
Mary Johnson mother widow 79 Retired Farmer Stokesely
+ lodger Thomas Bulmer 58 unmar Grocer Ravensworth
+ visitors Mary Caden 16 Dressmaker Durham Preston and Elizabeth Caden 15 Dressmaker Sunderland

High Green, Stokesley, Yorkshire
RG10/4859 Folio 75 Page 20

In 1851 and 1861, this Ann Johnson seems to be the matron of the Stokesley workhouse....  Undecided

(I can't find a John William Johnson b. Stokesley in 1861 census)

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Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:56 BST (UK) »

Hello CatOne,

Looks like a bag of worms this one!   I can understand the matron of the Workhouse adopting him but where was he in 1861?   Another mystery.

Thank you very much for your effort

Regards

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 April 08 16:58 BST (UK) »

Got that wrong CatOne didn't l, you've already told me where he was in 1861!!

Need a new 'ead

Thanks

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 April 08 18:52 BST (UK) »

 Smiley I have "blonde moments" myself  Roll Eyes

Yes, I meant that as John William Johnson couldn't be found in 1861, maybe he was your John William Hoggart in 1861, and just took his adoptive mum's name in 1871. However, I cant find him 1881 onwards!  Undecided I wonder if anyone else will have any better luck....

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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Look up please. John William Hoggart
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

Hello Catherine,

I'm sure you've got that right for me!   Where he disappeared to before 1881 is a mystery but I'll keep plugging away at it.     It's quite a sad story, a generation later saw another family member, Dinah 'Hoggett', Grin in the same workhouse but she later married and got out.   I often tend to forget to look at 'soundalike' spellings so miss lots of things.  Cry

I know there's a lot of them around but my wife's late mother was nee Fox from Shelfield or Rushall in Staffs.

Thanks again, a great help.  Grin

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
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