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gjervis
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John Jervis and Mary baptised their children in Mucklestone as follows:
Sarah 1828, James 1830, Caroline 1833, Job 1834, and Mary Ann 1837 but there I think is another family of John and Mary who also had children baptised in Mucklestone slightly earlier and I am trying to decide whether there is one or two separate families.
The other family had children Mary 1817, John 1818, George 1819.
I would be most grateful if someone could see whether these one or two families appear in the 1841 or 1851 census records.
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Graham
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Names: Rushent, Husselbee, Husselby, Crutchley, Woodier, Jervis, Barker, Locations: Staffordshire, Wiltshire, Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Lincolnshire, London Military: Grenadier Guards, Yeoman of the Guards, Crimea, Army WW1 Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Graham
For a starter:
1841 census, Drayton in the Hales or Market Drayton / Drayton Magna - Tanyard HO 107/899/5 folio 14 pg 20
James Jervis; 60; dyer; Y [born in county] Mary do; 50; ?? maker?; Y Caroline do; 8; Y
I'll go back for a look for the other set. Sorry I can't make out Mary's occupation 
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Hi Graham
1841 census, Drayton in the Hales / Market Drayton / Drayton Magna - Shropshire Street HO 107/899/5 folio 5 pg 2
John Jervis; 60; joiner; Y Mary Jervis; 55; Y
This is the same district / area as the other one 
I should have said that the ages are rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0 but both these John's are about the same age!
Hope you can sort them out!
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1841 - HO107 Piece 899 Book 4 Shropshire St, Drayton town, Drayton in The Hales reg dist Market Drayton
All born in county
Job Clevis 39 ag lab
May Mary Clevis 38 baker? Sarah Clevis 13 James Clervis 4 Job Clevis 2
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Hi Graham
Is this the carpenter from 1841?
1851 census Drayton Magna - Cheshire Street HO 107/1996 folio 176 pg 20
Mary Henshall; head; wid; 47; Salop, Drayton Catherine do; dau; 6; Staffordshire, Donington Mary do; dau; 2; Staffordshire, Donington John Jervis; father [no comment on marriage status]; 69; carpenter; Salop, Drayton
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Wow. Thanks everyone. Looks as if there is some thinking to be done. The Clevis family could be a mistranscription. 
Looks asa if my assumption of which children belonged to which family was incorrect. Job doens't now look as if he is in the same family as Caroline.
This is most useful. Many thanks. If there is any other records that thrrow some light on this it would be most useful.
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Graham
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Hi Graham
I think you might have to go back to the Parish records to separate these out!
There are at least 3 marriages over a 20 year period between a John Jervis & Mary at Market Drayton 
I had a look on the deaths between census - all Market Drayton district:
Caroline Jervis Q1 1847 John Jervis Q1 1844 John Jervis Q1 1848 John Cresswell Jervis Q2 1841 John Cresswell Jervis Q3 1846 Mary Jervis Q4 1848
Some, all or none of these might be yours!
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Not sure about the first, but this looks likely to match 1851....
1841 - HO107 Piece 988 Book: 1 - Parish: Drayton in Hales, Staffordshire Township of Almington, reg dist: Market Drayton
John Jervis 30 N (no occ.) Mary Jervis 30 Y James Jervis 10 Y John Jervis 5 Y (image states Job) Mary Jervis 4 Y
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Many thanks everyone for your help in this. Looks as if it going to take a little while to sort out and a trip to the Record office necessary.
Many thanks
Graham
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Names: Rushent, Husselbee, Husselby, Crutchley, Woodier, Jervis, Barker, Locations: Staffordshire, Wiltshire, Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Lincolnshire, London Military: Grenadier Guards, Yeoman of the Guards, Crimea, Army WW1 Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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