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Need help finding Jos. Curran
« on: Friday 11 April 08 12:41 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Would appreciate peoples insight into finding information on my elusive great uncle Joseph Curran, born 1882, Liverpool, occupation Bricklayer. Some records already found use Jos. rather than Joseph, so this may have been what he preferred. His parents names were James Michael Curran & Charlotte Atkinson.

What is known so far is that he married my great aunt Martha Ellen Jenkins, Nov 1911 in Liverpool. Joseph travelled from Liverpool to Halifax, Canada on 4th April 1914 aboard the Empress of Britain. Martha Ellen followed him on 6th June 1914, sailing on the Laurentic bound for Montreal. I have documents and Ship's Manifests showing this info.

Addresses where they lived in Canada are below:
1916    130, Dorian Street, Montreal.  - where their daughter was born.
1917    971, Dorchester East, Montreal.
1919    60,  William Street, Hamilton, Ontario

I believe this is him in Vernon's directory:
1920  CURRAN J. (15, Barton Street E )
1921  CURRAN Jos. bricklayer ( 15 Barton St. E)

Around 1920-1921 Martha Ellen and their daughter returned to the UK alone, stating that Joseph had been killed in an accident but there has never been anything found to confirm this story.i.e. a Death Certificate or a Burial record.  Can anyone advise on a way forward :0)

Regards,
Marilyn
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 April 08 15:26 BST (UK) »

HI Marilyn,

Have you tried looking through the newspapers?  you could try www.pagesofthepast.com which is a Toronto newspaper available on line.

Karen
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Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 April 08 15:35 BST (UK) »

Were they living in Hamilton or Toronto when he died?

Karen
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Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
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Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:03 BST (UK) »

Were they living in Hamilton or Toronto when he died?

Karen


Hi Karen,

Thanks for your response to my query.  The last confirmed address for Jos was Hamilton, Ontario. 

The addresses were provided by his grandaughter (my 2nd cousin) and she gave me the Toronto label but I think she meant Ontario. Using Google Maps William Street & Barton St. E are adjoining streets in Hamilton Ontario. Is there more than one Hamilton in Canada? My 2nd cousin has personally visited the locations and has written proof (rent books) that Jos. & Martha were at the Monteal & Hamilton addresses. The Vernon's directory entries were provided by a Canadian researcher she paid to try and find Joseph....without success I am afraid!

There is an element of doubt as to whether he did actually die. Perhaps he & Martha had parted company, with her returning to the UK "saying" she was a widow. She never spoke of him following her return and subsequently remarried in the UK.

Regards and thanks again,
Marilyn
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:33 BST (UK) »

There could be another Hamilton in Canada somewhere, but I think your safe to assume it is Hamilton, Ontario as Barton Road is a major Road in Hamilton.

Here's a link to the Ontario Cemetery Finder, there are a couple of Joseph Curran's, but none in Hamilton  Undecided

http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search

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Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:53 BST (UK) »



Here's a link to the Ontario Cemetery Finder, there are a couple of Joseph Curran's, but none in Hamilton  Undecided

http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search

Karen


Karen....I had found that previously and this is the only one that may fit as the others have middle names:
CURRAN Joseph - Rob Roy - Grey - Osprey BG-G-129

Is there anywhere to find a death certificate that would give some indication of the date of death or age of this Joseph Curran? Any help appreciated Smiley

Regards,
Marilyn
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 08 16:58 BST (UK) »

Here's a link to someone who has the book of listings for that cemetery, perhaps email them (it's at the bottom of the page) and ask for them to look it up for you.

http://members.shaw.ca/hornsby/lookups.htm

Karen
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Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 08 17:00 BST (UK) »

Having said that, I just looked up on the Ontario Deaths and there is a Joseph Curran who died in Grey County in 1903, so don't think he's your fellow  Sad

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 April 08 19:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Karen,

Thanks for looking anyway....the search will go on.  Joseph's death would need to be some time after 1920.

I did try the www.pagesofthepast.com link but looks like the site has been removed for now. There is just a Network Solutions holding page now.

Regards,
Marilyn
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 April 08 00:45 BST (UK) »

Try this link:

http://pagesofthepast.ca/



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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 April 08 01:45 BST (UK) »

thanks Lemon, I put the wrong .com on the end  Embarrassed

Karen
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 April 08 09:20 BST (UK) »


Thanks Smiley  Googled "Pages of the Past" and found it already. No joy there either!
Regards,
Marilyn
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Re: Need help finding Jos. Curran
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 April 08 09:49 BST (UK) »

I have just added Joseph Curran's parents info to my original post #1 in this thread. For those that have already read it I have included the info here too.

>His parents names were James Michael Curran & Charlotte Atkinson.<

Thanks,
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