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Topic: Thomas Hawker From and To? (Read 599 times)
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Newf
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OK, moving back now to find Thos Snrs roots ... his marriage to Caroline in 1864
Marriages Sep 1864
Hawker Thomas Birmingham Vol 6D P4 to Lockett Caroline
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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ankerdine
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I think I'd opt for the Works Manager, Sutton Coldfield, as being the one. SC is not far away from Birmingham. Maybe he worked for his brother George?
Yes ok, thank you kindly.
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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Newf
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Hmmmm 1851 reveals Thomas with his siblings and Grandmother in Eckington ... hopefully 1841 might reveal more ...
1851 - HO107/2045; Folio: 54; Page: 14 - Eckington, Worcs
Jarvis Street
Susan Hunt 65 Head Widow Glos, Ashton under Hill ?
Susan Hawker 14 Gdau Pauper Eckington
William Hawker 12 Gson pauper Ag Lab do
Thomas Hawker 10 Gson do do do
Charles Hawker 8 Gson do do
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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1841 - HO107/1204/15; Eckington; District: 1; Folio: ; Page: 11
William Hawker 25 Ag Lab (Not born in County)
Sarah Hawker 25
Susannah Hawker 5
William Hawker 3
Thomas Hawker 10 Mo
Looks like Susan Hunt is next door.
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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Jumping forward again - post marriage
1871 - RG10/3120; Folio: 15; Page: 23 - Birmingham, St George district
North Street
Thomas Hawker 30 Head Bricklayer Worcs, Eckington
Caroline Hawker 38 Wife Birm'ham
George W Hawker 4 son do
Francis Hawker 3 son do
Thomas H Hawker 1 son Birm'ham
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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ankerdine
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Last Summer my husband and I visited Eckington, Worcestershire, just after the floods in Tewkesbury and Pershore. We wandered around the village, as one does, and even trudged around the churchyard but didn't come up with anything, except a very pleasant pub lunch.
Your latest findings show the grandmother looking after four grandchildren. Where are the parents? From pauper to employer in two generations - surely this is proof of the benefits of the Education Act 1874(??).
I have to go out now but will look out for further findings from you, for which I thank you again.
Granny has to go and collect the younger Hawkers from school. Nothing changes in life does it?
Judy
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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Just a thought. In the 1851 census do you think William and Sarah were away somewhere? Do you think they were boat-people by any chance? However, I do see that the working family people were down as "ag labs" so that's another red herring.
Cheerio for now.
Judy
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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Newf
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Indeed !
I suspect that the parents died post 1843 ish, and as you say Granny raised them - dont know why they would be shown as pauperes on the census unless it was declared they were on Parish relief - Susan wasnt ?
why dont you try looking at FreeBMD for the parents death Index entries to complete the picture - oh and see if theres a Birth Entry for Thomas to wrap this up ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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Yes, will do. Thanks.
Couldn't resist coming back to see what you'd posted!
The Hawker family's doctor in the 1940s/1950s was a Dr. Lilley, who was a very reputable gentleman. No relation to you was he?
Bye
Judy
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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ankerdine
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Yes, well, I found a Sarah Hawker died Pershore March qtr 1845 and a William Hawker died Pershore March qtr 1847 as you predicted. Charles Hawker was born Dec qtr 1842. I found an Ellen Hawker born Pershore March qtr 1844 Pershore thinking that Sarah may have died in childbirth but it's not quite right. Thomas Hawker was born Pershore December qtr 1840.
There's more to find....
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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Hi Judy
I've just googled on Hawker & Eckington and found your messages. I'm a descendent of William Hawker from Eckington via Charles, and come from Warwickshire. I lived on Yarningale Common as a baby and was christened in Claverdon church. Charles was an electroplater but died aged 39 of TB. I know a little of the history of George Hawker, and have photos of him. He funded my great aunt, his cousin's daughter, and another relative through school - very generous! I have photos of them both in their school uniforms. My family also went to Wales on holiday with George and his family. George had a holiday home at Llwyngwril, I think. They may have lived there during WW2. I have some holiday photos. I've put lots of the data, including some photos, onto ancestry.co.uk. I don't know whether you can access that.
Do tell me more of your husband's side of the family.
Chris
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William Hicken b 1861, Budbrooke, Warwickshire
Emma Canning b 1870, Loxley, Warwickshire
Albert Harry Enston b1873, Claverdon, Warwickshire
Sarah Ann Hawker b 1870, Balsall Heath, King's Norton, Warwickshire
John Winnington b1843, Kinderton, Cheshire
Elizabeth Mottershead b1846, Macclesfield, Cheshire
Samuel Harper b 1845, Wem, Shropshire
Catherine Ratcliffe b 1848, Wem, Shropshire
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Hi Chris
I have PMd'd you and I hope to hear from you again.
Judy
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Marshall, Williamson, Blair, Hoggart(h): Creetown, Stranraer, Dalrymple, Auchinleck, Coylton
Saxton, Brown, Sketchley: Nottingham, Rutland, Leicestershire
Bradbury, Turner: Walsall
McColville, Halliday: Northern Ireland
Hawker, Davies: Aston, Birmingham
Silvers: Dudley, Worcestershire
Blakemore: Black Country
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