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« on: Saturday 12 April 08 14:19 BST (UK) »

Hi All

The attached photo is of my granddad and Great Aunt. I think it may have been taken in Brighton. (Grandad was born 1895 and died 1969 and Auntie Annie was born 1903 and died 1976 and lived most of her adult life in Brighton).
It looks like they are in front of a cinema showing Elvis Presley in California Holiday (I can make out nia ay behind granddad).
Is anyone able to narrow a date down for me as I would like to send a copy to Annie's grandson who I have recently been in contact with.
All suggestions greatly received.

dinie

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 April 08 14:44 BST (UK) »

California Holiday starring Elvis was released in the USA  October 17th1966

Release date in UK was October 21st 1966


It was known as 'Spinout' in the States and 'California Holiday' in Denmark.

Strange. Looks like a British bus in the background, though

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 April 08 16:27 BST (UK) »

Hi Dinie,
Looks like a Southdown Bus, I used to go to school in one!  Just did a quick search on Google and there is a website for the Southdown Buses (Southdown Historic Vehicles) with pictures and the bus routes Brighton through to Portsmouth, it shows the same type of bus built 1965.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 April 08 19:42 BST (UK) »

Tricia & Anne

Thanks for the info.

Tha's great, I don't think we'll narrow it down much further then.

I guess I can say it was possibly late 1966 or early 1967 (depends on when the film would have reached Brighton).

Thanks again

dinie
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 April 08 08:35 BST (UK) »

That looks like the cinema frontage in Marlborough Place, just up from the Pavillion. Pete
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 April 08 11:40 BST (UK) »

Wow Pete, that's great.

I'm afraid I don't know Brighton at all, only been there a couple of times on summer hols, etc.

Hopefully my contact will know where you are on about as he grew up around Brighton & Shoreham.

Thanks again

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 April 08 11:51 BST (UK) »

 Hi dinie, 
Re dating the photo, why not put it onto the photo restoration list of rootschat and in the subject line be sure to use the word "date".  I've had wonderful help dating a photo this way.  There is one very knowledgeable rootschatter who filters things by the word "date" I suspect so doing this may draw him out.
Let us know how you get on,

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 April 08 13:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Charlotte

I may do that, although I think we have it fairly nailed down now - only because they are in front of a cinema and I can just make out parts of the film title and Elvis' name behind my Granddad.

Guess I should ask Graceland about when the film was released in Brighton  Grin

Cheers

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 April 08 15:53 BST (UK) »

Hi, I'm having second thoughts, I thought it was the Astoria, mainly from the lookof the houses at the side. Browse your way through
http://www.terramedia.co.uk/brighton/brighton_cinema_directory.htm
and see what you think. Although the photo shown is 1935 and it may have been updated. Pete
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 April 08 20:48 BST (UK) »

Hi Pete

Like you, I think it may be the Astoria after looking through the link you gave. There were certainly a lot of theatres/cinemas in and around Brighton weren't there.

Cheers

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 April 08 21:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Dinie,
We are pretty sure this picture was taken on Brighton seafront opposite what was the Savoy cinema, later to become the ABC cinema complex , which has now closed.The Southdown buses ran along the seafront into The Steine bus depot which was called Pool Valley. The bus depot is still there, although modernised. The houses along the seafront can still be recognised as their basic shape hasn't changed.
Hope this helps.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 08:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Babs, by the look of the photo on the website I mentioned above the Savoy is a corner site. Looking at most of the cinemas on that site they are built on slopes so that narrows down the choice. Pete
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 15:12 BST (UK) »

The old ABC cinema had a "side" entrance on the sea-front for many years. I thought it was that one as well, but couldn't find any photos to confirm or deny it.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 19:07 BST (UK) »

Babs, Pete & Glen

Thank you for your comments but please don't get into a disagreement over it Grin  Grin.

unfortunately, I don't know Brighton at all. I wondered if it was on the seafront as they seem to be on quite a deep path and most seaside places I have been to had wide paths on the sea side (does that make sense Huh)

It's amazing that you can tell so much from such a small amount of detail. Looking at the site Pete mentioned, it does look similar to the Astoria but looking at the site again there appears to be a brick wall to the right (as you look at it) so maybe not Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes and it also seems to be standing alone.

dinie

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 19:36 BST (UK) »

Having another trawl of the Net I cam e across this link to cinema's, etc in Brighton area.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/038e/

don't know if they will help.

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