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John W Bean b 1853 Helpston
« on: Sunday 13 April 08 07:13 BST (UK) »

According to the 1861 John Bean b.1853 in Helpston was living with his grandfather Francis Bean and family in Helpston. He then disappears and a John W Bean b. 1853 in Helpston turns up in 1891 and 1901 in Huddersfield.

I think he may have been the son of Hannah, Francis's daughter. The nearest birth I can find for a John William Bean is 1855 registered in Stamford. Hannah's daughter Sophia Pechel Bean was registered in Peterborough in 1858.

Is the John in Huddersfield the same John as the 1861 census? Can anyone help please?

Thanks

Francine
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Taylor: Whitley/Thornhill,Yorkshire
Bean: Helpston,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Denton: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Grason: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Hill: Ufford,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Kaye: Lepton/Whitley,Yorkshire
Sykes: Lepton, Yorkshire
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Re: John W Bean b 1853 Helpston
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 April 08 13:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Francine

Did you consider this chap?

John BEAN/ BENN sert U 19 - farm servant - Northamptonshire

Holling House Farm, West Clayton, Yorkshire

RG10/4653/18/14

What certificates do you have for this family?

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: John W Bean b 1853 Helpston
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 April 08 14:25 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that. I've looked at the census return and it could be him. On the line under his birthplace Northamptonshire, it says Helpstone.

I will have to bight the bullet and send for his birth certificate, but 2 years out seems a bit much.

I have his grandfather's death certificate, his grandmother's death certificate (her cause of death is given as a visitation from God!!),his sister's birth certificate, his mother's marriage certificate and several other marriage certificates for the Francis's children. His mother (if Hannah was his mother) was my g.grandmother's sister.

Thanks again. I just have to find him in 1881 now!

Regards

Francine
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Taylor: Whitley/Thornhill,Yorkshire
Bean: Helpston,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Denton: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Grason: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Hill: Ufford,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Kaye: Lepton/Whitley,Yorkshire
Sykes: Lepton, Yorkshire
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Re: John W Bean b 1853 Helpston
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 April 08 14:34 BST (UK) »

I have had a trawl through for Hannah - who did she marry?  Did she go to Yorkshire too?

He seems to have changed occupation to carm(an) teamster by 1891, so that should help a bit?!?

I assume you have found the rest of the family in the census to check that he isn't with them?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: John W Bean b 1853 Helpston
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 April 08 16:49 BST (UK) »

Hannah married William Wilson in 1865. She'd already had 3 children by then, but none of them went with her when she married. Hannah stayed in Norfolk.

The reason I think that John wm might be Hannah's son is that in the 1901 census Jas Hy Courtman (nephew) is visiting. I think that Sophia married Frederick Courtman and was living in Holbeach Lincs. A Frederick Courtman married Sophia Wilson and I've made the leap of faith that she has changed her name from Bean to Wilson.

My g.grandmother and her family moved to Yorkshire between 1865 and 1869, he could have gone with them. I imagine that there was trouble in Agriculture about that time as my g.grandfather was an agricultural labourer when he moved.

Thanks again

Regards

Francine
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Taylor: Whitley/Thornhill,Yorkshire
Bean: Helpston,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Denton: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Grason: Thornhill/Thornhill Lees,Yorkshire
Hill: Ufford,Northamptonshire/Yorkshire
Kaye: Lepton/Whitley,Yorkshire
Sykes: Lepton, Yorkshire
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