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Harrison family on 1841 census
« on: Sunday 13 April 08 10:00 BST (UK) »

Is there anyone that can help overcome a rather large brick wall on my Harrison family? I have Edward Harrison born Staffordshire, i think, around 1800,married to Eugenia Harrison (nee Griffiths)born about 1802 in Gloucestershire. They had five children that i know of, the last being born in Cockshutt, Shropshire in 1841 so i presume that is where they were living in 1841 when the census was done.
I am really struggling to trace them back any further as i have no birth date or exact place of birth for Edward or Eugenia and i wondered if there may be any helpful info on the 1841 census.
Any help on this one would be really appreciated as i am unsure where to go next with this one. I know Edward died in 1844 so he will not be on any further censuses.
many thanks
Julie
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 April 08 11:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Julie

You don't give the children's names?  That would help a great deal!

There is this little family, who are the only ones with a Eugenia that jump out:

HO107/918/11/8/19/7

Eugenia HARRISON 35 (no occupation stated) No
Henrietta 14 - do - No
Clara 7 - Yes
Elizabeth 2 - Yes
William 8 months Yes
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William CHILTON 45 ag lab - Yes

Address: Brandwood, Middle, Shropshire

Not exactly the right location though.

Will look again if you can supply more info - Edward's occupation would also help.

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 April 08 11:20 BST (UK) »

Did Eugenia go on to marry William PRICE?

1851 census HO107/2021/513/8

William PRICE H M 60 - brick maker - Shropshire Mardol (sic)
Eugenia W M 49 - do - Glostersh Whitminster
Clara dau U 17 - do - Shropshire Mardol
Elizabeth dau U 13 - do - do
Sarah Ann dau U 6? - do Wem
Margaret COLLINS lodger U 17 - screw maker - Ireland

Address: Duck Lane, Bilston, Staffordshire

The daughters Clara and Elizabeth seem to fit, although their birthplace has been transcribed as Mardol vice Middle.  Eugenia's birthplace is clear enough - Whitminster, Gloucestershire.

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 April 08 11:54 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

Yes Eugenia did marry William Price and they had a daughter Sarah in 1845/46. I am afraid i don't know Edward Harrison's occupation, i was hoping to find that out as well. The family you have found look like the right one. They had the following children that i know of:
Henrietta Eugenia born about 1826
Henry Edward born about 1830
Clara Matilda born about 1835
Elizabeth 1838
Emily 1841
Seeing as there are gaps there may have been others that i haven't found. Elizabeth and Clara were born in Myddle (Middle).
Thanks for the info you have found for me. Edward seems to be rather a mystery. He should've still been alive in 1841 as they had another daughter after the census was done. I have found a death for 1844 as well.
I thought with a name like Eugenia she would be quite easy to find.
Thanks again
Julie
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 April 08 12:00 BST (UK) »

Do you have the 1851 details?  I can post them if you haven't.

It does seem to be the same family - like you I am puzzled about Edward being missing in 1841 - will have another look to see if he is nearby.  Also the children who seem to be missing in 1851 - I can't find Henrietta, although there is a possible marriage for her in Walsall in 1849.

Let me know what you need & meanwhile I will look for Eddie!

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 April 08 12:04 BST (UK) »

The details for the 1851 would be good thanks. Henrietta married in 1849 to John Vallance and i have details of that family as they are also in my tree. I think that Henry Edward Harrison died in 1842 so he won't be on the 1851 census.
Good luck looking for Edward!
Thanks again
Julie
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 April 08 12:11 BST (UK) »

The details for the 1851 would be good thanks.

I have added them above

Henrietta married in 1849 to John Vallance and i have details of that family as they are also in my tree.

Ah, that's the marriage I found - good!

Back soon!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 April 08 12:21 BST (UK) »

Me again!

So the only Eddies in Shropshire or Staffordshire look snugly married to other people.

I need to ask - where do the details of Edward come from?  Do you have any certificates - a child's birth, Edward's death for example?  I think that is probably where you need to go next.

If you had Henrietta's marriage cert, that should give you info about Edward - but possibly it just says deceased?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 April 08 13:49 BST (UK) »

No I don't have the marriage certificate for Eugenia or Edward's death certificate, i have just got the details from the BMG index. It seems rather a mystery really but thanks for the info you have found, i can use that. Maybe this is one brick wall i can't get over!
Best wishes
Julie
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Re: Harrison family on 1841 census
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 April 08 17:26 BST (UK) »

I should say that you can but that one or two certificates would come in handy!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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