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Where is Henry SADLER??? - COMPLETED, THANKS!!!
« on: Sunday 13 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

This is a puzzle which both myself and another person researching the SADLER family of Lullington & Beckington, Somerset have run across:  where is Henry Sadler...

Here's the story...

He appears in the 1841 Census with his wife Louisa (as Henry & Lucasia Tadler), but then disappears from view entirely.

The obvious answer is that he died - but neither myself nor Jane has been able to find a record of death for a Henry Sadler in Frome until 1886 (Apr qtr 1886 vol 5 c p 361).  His wife Louisa definitely died in 1890 (ec qtr 1890 Frome district voc 5c p 341).  So, taking a giant leap and assuming that this IS him, where is he between the 1841 & 1881 Census?  We have both searched for him (my searches were for Henry Sadler, b. 1810 Somerset, +/- 10 years) in each census return from 1851 to 1881 and beyond.  No luck. Huh

Jane did a basic census transcription for the SADLER family, as follows:

On the 1841 census Henry and Louisa  are with their children Lucy and Frances (as Tadler...)
1851 census on her own with family- Eliza 18 Lucy 16 Francis 10 James 7 Richard 4- no Henry
1861 census Living with Aaron Rose and wife Lucy (nee Sadler) - no Henry
1871                "                   "                       "                        - no Henry
1881                "                   "                       "                        - no Henry

Ideas anyone???

Regards,

Patricia



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ABBOTT:dorset; somerset
BENNET: south africa
CAVE:  hampshire
EUDEY: redruth, cornwall; victoria; australia
FELTON: borley, essex
HARTILL: bilston, staffordshire
HERMANSSON/HERMANSON: sweden; SA; usa
INGS: wiltshire
MERCER: wiltshire
MINCHINGTON: somerset, dorset
PHILLIPS: australia
ROSE: somerset; wiltshire; SA
SADLER: somerset
SAUNDERS: wiltshire
SELLER: staffordshire, devon, australia, SA
STANNARD: norfolk; victoria, australia; SA
STREET: wiltshire
VINCENT: wiltshire
WARE: somerset
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Re: Where is Henry Sadler???
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 April 08 20:41 BST (UK) »

It could be that Henry is in some sort of institute seeing Louisa is a pauper in 1851.  There are some with the initials HS on the 1851 census .

Name HS
Convict
Where born Bridge Somerset
Abt 1808

Civil parish Woolwich
Town Greenwich
County Kent

Sub reg district Woolwich Arsenal
ED, institition, vessel convict Hulk Establishment, Hebe
Vessel Wye and unite  

There is another one HHS lunatic patient born abt 1807 Martock Somerset.
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Re: Where is Henry SADLER???
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 April 08 08:55 BST (UK) »

Hi there Julie,

Thanks for the reply - that could be him, although Brigde could be Bridgewater, which is quite a distance from Lullington, where he was born, but we'll follow it up as best we can and see, that is the interesting part of family history ;-)

Regards,

Patricia

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ABBOTT:dorset; somerset
BENNET: south africa
CAVE:  hampshire
EUDEY: redruth, cornwall; victoria; australia
FELTON: borley, essex
HARTILL: bilston, staffordshire
HERMANSSON/HERMANSON: sweden; SA; usa
INGS: wiltshire
MERCER: wiltshire
MINCHINGTON: somerset, dorset
PHILLIPS: australia
ROSE: somerset; wiltshire; SA
SADLER: somerset
SAUNDERS: wiltshire
SELLER: staffordshire, devon, australia, SA
STANNARD: norfolk; victoria, australia; SA
STREET: wiltshire
VINCENT: wiltshire
WARE: somerset
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Re: Where is Henry SADLER???
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 April 08 14:04 BST (UK) »

Hi Paticia,

I have found this record for a Henry Sadler being Transported to Moreton Bay Australia in 1849,
Henry Sadler Tried at Wells Quarter sessions Somerset ,Sentence 7 years
5th July 1847, Computed from 5-8-1847,
Voyage date 1-6-1849,
Ship, Mount Stuart Elphinstone,

There are no other details, Wells is about 30 mins from Frome,
I hope this may help,
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Re: Where is Henry SADLER???
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 April 08 15:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Anita,

Curiouser and curiouser - I'll follow that up too - it looks promissing!

Thanks very much!!!

Regards,

Patricia
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ABBOTT:dorset; somerset
BENNET: south africa
CAVE:  hampshire
EUDEY: redruth, cornwall; victoria; australia
FELTON: borley, essex
HARTILL: bilston, staffordshire
HERMANSSON/HERMANSON: sweden; SA; usa
INGS: wiltshire
MERCER: wiltshire
MINCHINGTON: somerset, dorset
PHILLIPS: australia
ROSE: somerset; wiltshire; SA
SADLER: somerset
SAUNDERS: wiltshire
SELLER: staffordshire, devon, australia, SA
STANNARD: norfolk; victoria, australia; SA
STREET: wiltshire
VINCENT: wiltshire
WARE: somerset
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Re: Where is Henry SADLER??? - COMPLETED, THANKS!!!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 08:53 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

We need to investigate further - but it looks as if Henry Sadler was transported in 1849, so thanks muchly to Anita for thinking of that - amazingly enough it didn't occur to me...

Thanks to Julie as well for thinking of H S...

Regards,

Patricia
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ABBOTT:dorset; somerset
BENNET: south africa
CAVE:  hampshire
EUDEY: redruth, cornwall; victoria; australia
FELTON: borley, essex
HARTILL: bilston, staffordshire
HERMANSSON/HERMANSON: sweden; SA; usa
INGS: wiltshire
MERCER: wiltshire
MINCHINGTON: somerset, dorset
PHILLIPS: australia
ROSE: somerset; wiltshire; SA
SADLER: somerset
SAUNDERS: wiltshire
SELLER: staffordshire, devon, australia, SA
STANNARD: norfolk; victoria, australia; SA
STREET: wiltshire
VINCENT: wiltshire
WARE: somerset
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