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MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« on: Sunday 13 April 08 14:18 BST (UK) »
From Catholic registers of Brockhampton I have a baptism written in Latin:

23 June, 1774 "Joannem MIDLANE"; filium Georgii MIDLANE & Mariae nee WRIGHT.  Patrina fuit Martha Wright.

Help!  Is "Joannem" Latin for John?  (I think he is the bridegroom in my other query.)
I assume the parents are George Midlane and Mary nee Wright.  I also assume that Martha Wright is a sponser or god-parent.
 
I cannot find any record of a marriage for George and Mary.  (IFor Mary I have a burial in 1804, and parents' names - child of John WRIGHT and Martha SONE - born about  1749)

Any help gratefully received!  judb
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MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts
SONE - Hants
WRIGHT - London, Hants
SEAGER - Deptford
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Re: MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 April 08 14:32 BST (UK) »
Unbeleivable - this site is great.  Just looked up Hampshire Record Office as given in Hampshire Resources here in Rootschat and there is mention of the marriage of Geroge and Mary at St Martin in the Fields in 1772!
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Re: MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 April 08 21:41 BST (UK) »
John would usually be Johannes, but Joannes (and therefore Joannem) is also found.

I think you are correct about Martha being a sponsor to John.

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Re: MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 April 08 08:21 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your reply for both of my questions.  I now don't think the baby baptised was the bridegroom in the marriage as his age at marriage is 21 in 1801 thus birth date of 1780 and the baptism is in 1774 which is quite a discrepancy.

I need to get hold of the book of Catholic Registers again which I got the information from in the first place.  maybe they had another child called John later.  I am researching some Australian ancestors and they re-used the same Christian names a couple of times in their ten children, especially with babies who died in infancy - and the poor little one who died at 6 days didn't even get a name at all!

Once again - many thanks!
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Re: MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 April 08 12:00 BST (UK) »
The age given in the Marriage Allegation only indicates that he was at least 21, i.e. of full age.  So he may have been older.

If her father as George Anson Thompson, then her mother was Ann Vivion/Vivian and they married 29 June 1769 in Portsea.

Children:
?James 21 Jun 1778
Henry 30 March 1783
Mary Vivian 9 Mar 1785
Isabella 22 Mar 1786
Grace 5 Dec 1787

But there is no record for Jane.  However, at the record in Winchester there is a letter from George to Lieutenant John Poore on occasion of his marriage with his granddaughter Martha Sone Midlane, 4 Nov 1824.  Didn't you mention her in your other post?

George Anson Thompson was buried 12 Jan 1829 aged 82.  He was baptised in Portsea 29 Jun 1746, which would fit.  Smiley  Father was William.  George left a will which you can download from the National Archives site for £3.50.  It might mention some family members which will hep you sort it out.

George Anson Thompson was a dockyard officer (1st Clerk to the Clerk of Survey) from July 1764 until July 1822.  His name appears in the entry service books under ref ADM 29/8/44 at the National Archives.

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Re: MIDLANE, Emsworth/Brockhampton
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 00:35 BST (UK) »
Oh Nell, thank you so much.

I have asked my son who lives in London if he fancies a trip to Winchester as there is a lot of material at the Record Office in the Poore papers regarding George Anson Thompson as well as later members of the Midlane family.  I think I have laid on the guilt so that he will make the trip!!

I hope to get to the Library to the Catholic Records book this week.  If you ever have anyone who needs look-ups in that book, (Catholic Registrations in the Parish of Brockhampton) please ask me.  It may take a week or so for me to get it but it is very worthwhile, as I said before, because of the smaller community of Catholic families.  Many of them are mentioned many times as godparents and wedding attendants are also recorded; Bedhampton, Emsworth and Warblington are part of the Catholic parish.

Cheers, judb
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