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Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« on: Saturday 17 November 07 15:15 GMT (UK) »

Can anyone help me with a look up for MI / burial in Chelmsford for a couple called Pieter J Duyshart and Alida Helena Duyshart.   This couple were Dutch and I have found the name misspelt on various records.  I've found a death index entry for Pieter showing that he died in Chelmsford in the 4th quarter of 1889 - no trace for his wife.   Pieter was a photographer and had a business in Chelmsford (P.J.Duyshart & Co) which was carried on after his death by his daughter Maria Mona Duyshart.

Any information on burial place, MI, etc would be helpful.  And if anyone knows of a source where one could get more information about the business that too would be helpful.
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 November 07 15:36 GMT (UK) »

http://www.cartes.freeuk.com/pete/photo4.htm

http://www.davewilson.co.uk/DeatGeoJunior.html

A couple of photo's done by your man,if you haven't seen them before..
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hepburn,finney,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
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new zealand,turton
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 November 07 15:46 GMT (UK) »

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/tg1863/domisc.htm


Was he the secretary of the Isle of Wight telegraph company in 1863??
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
hepburn,finney,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 November 07 16:26 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the links to the photos - I had seen one of them before but not the other.   The one taken in 1894/95 must have been by his daughter Maria Mona since that is after his death.

And Yes, he was secretary of the IOM Telegraphic Company in the 1860s.  They married in Newington, Surrey but their two children were born on the IOM and they appear there in the 1863 Directory and in the 1861 census.   I haven't found them in 1871 yet but in 1881, they were in Torquay.  So they got around a bit.   

Pieter actually started a bit of a dynasty of photographers - as said earlier, his daughter Maria Mona was also a photographer and she married Frederick Cornhill who at one stage was listed as a 'photographic artiste'.  Their son Frederick Cornhill was the ship's photographer on various Trans-Atlantic liners during the 1930s although he latterly became a hotel owner in Edinburgh.
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I have been researching for over 20 years and have a very extensive tree involving each of those names, proven back to the early 18th century in some cases.
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 November 07 18:59 GMT (UK) »

Well Ive been goggling for ever,all  Ive found is you can have search done (for 15 pounds  Shocked) if you go on Genuki they have some useful links.....Maybe.
What was Alida's maiden name??
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
hepburn,finney,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,

 
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 November 07 22:41 GMT (UK) »

Thanks a lot for trying.   I'm afraid I don't know Alina's maiden name - the index gives it as Duyshart, the same as her married name but I would be very surprised if that's correct.
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I am researching Kemp, Emslie, Mitchell in Lumphanan, Aberdeenshire; Marshall, Shewan and Adie in Longside/Peterhead, Aberdeenshire; Still, Sim, Duncan and Andrew in Boyndie/Fordyce Banffshire; Niven, Bruce, Ross, Robert in Fetteresso / Durris, Kincardineshire.

I have been researching for over 20 years and have a very extensive tree involving each of those names, proven back to the early 18th century in some cases.
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 November 07 16:39 GMT (UK) »

there is a marriage in Newington 1859 but there isn't a cross reference shown, free BMD's is not complete yet,  to get Alida's  maiden name have you thought about purchasing either this marriage or the birth of Maria Mona, I have Even tried just putting in her Christian name thinking it would throw up a different surname, is there a possibility that Alida returned to Holland
Who was the informant on Pieter's death cert?
Just thoughts

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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Lewis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent, London
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 November 07 16:54 GMT (UK) »

1891 RG12/1385 FOLIO 33 PAGE 19
75 Duke St Chelmsford

Alida Helena DINPHART aged 56 born Holland
Mary M aged 27 photographer born I O Mann
Clara Jennings Assistant aged 85 born Clerkenwell

So Alida was still alive in 1891,
if anyone has a street index for the 1901 census they may be able to look at this address in 1901

LM
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Lewis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent, London
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 November 07 17:02 GMT (UK) »

Geronimo
I have now found Alida on the 1901, once again miss spelt
RG13/1671 folio 40 page 26
Duke St
(next door to Coach and Horses)

Alida H Van G DUYSHET aged 64 wid photographer born Holland
Kate Jerred single aged 34 Lady's help born Weeley
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Lewis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent, London
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 November 07 17:09 GMT (UK) »

found marriage for
Newington 1859 ref 1d 334
Alida Helena Van Gessell Leen

Alida Helena Van Gossell Lien

seems as if no one knew exactly how to spell her name

I just entered Alida Helena and came up with the info, I am hoping it is your elusive Alida.

Everything shows that she was still alive after 1901

I don' t  think I can help you anymore

regards

LM
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Garner, Marylebone, Paddington,  Northolt, Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough
Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington
Tindal Marylebone, Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Lewis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth, 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto)
Coveney, Kent, Lambeth
Sondes, Kent, London
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 July 08 22:32 BST (UK) »

Peter Duyshart son of Pieter Johannes Duyshart married Annie Victoria Jennings they brought up Annie's niece Alice Markham.Alice was my husbands grandmother.Please get back to me. Judie Ann
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 July 08 22:41 BST (UK) »

Glenda,

Have been to Chelmsford and done quite a bit of research.Also have Pieter and Alida's marriage cert. Would love to talk to you outside this site.
Judie Ann.
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Re: Chelmsford MI / burial look up please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 July 08 22:47 BST (UK) »

Judie Ann

I too now have a lot more info.   Email me on Kath.MacDonald@btopenworld.com.
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I have been researching for over 20 years and have a very extensive tree involving each of those names, proven back to the early 18th century in some cases.
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