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North Surrey Industrial School
« on: Tuesday 15 April 08 14:10 BST (UK) »

Hi-does any one have any records or know how to access records for this place from 1860-1875.
I'm looking for information on my Great Grandfather Robert Ernest Moore DOB app.1860,I know he was definitley in there when he was 11 & went on to join the Navy.Any information at all would be much appreciated.
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Re: North Surrey Industrial School
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:20 BST (UK) »

You may find the picture and map of the school on the following site interesting

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?education/workhouse.shtml

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:41 BST (UK) »

Following through the link behindthefrogs posted, it looks like the surviving records are at the London Metropolitan Archives, although I couldn't see any early admissions registers etc.

Use A2A and search North Surrey School District

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:53 BST (UK) »

You didn't give us the census reference but I'm guessing your boy is the one born in Wandsworth and at the North Surrey District School.

The workhouse site mentions possible sources of confusion about the term "industrial school".

North Surrey District School was used by several London Boards of Guardians and it would be best to look among their records for information about inmates.

These records are at the London Metroplitan Archives. There are some records under the Wandsworth Board
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1867-1885 North Surrey School District, Anerley School: Register of children chargeable to the Guardians with index WABG/174/01.

It would be as well if you searched the catalogue for yourself. Take care with the search term because it may be shown as "North Surrey School District" or "North Surrey District School"
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 18:04 BST (UK) »

Thank-you Forester & Pharmakon,
                                            He was originally registered at Chertsey & re-registered at Wandsworth.Is it possible to access the info you've given on line 'cause I'm in Shropshire!
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 18:19 BST (UK) »

They are not online. The file I mentioned as an example hasn't even been filmed (this information may be out of date).

LMA have a research service or many independent researchers would be happy to help.



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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 18:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks again Pharmakon,he's stopped my tree 'cause he's 'parentless'.I will go a hunting.Much appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 April 08 14:33 BST (UK) »

Hi Oblivion

I've added you to my look-up list.

It will take a few weeks to get back to you but I'll let you know as soon as I can.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 17:10 BST (UK) »

Hi Oblivion

Sorry this has taken longer than expected.

The register that Pharmakon mentions is the earliest surviving one and although it is dated 1867-1885 the earliest admission is dated 1871 and after the census. The 1867 date refers to children whose details must have been in an earlier register which doesn't survive.

However, Robert Ernest Moore is not in the A-Z index at the front neither is he in the list of names at the start of the register that have been brought forward.

So although he was there for the 1871 census, he was subsequently sent home or discharged to another institution before the start of the new register.

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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 17:56:01 »

Hi Oblivion

Thought I would give you an update.

I've been back at the LMA quite a few times since my last posting.

Well today, I had another go at this request and might have turned up something for you.

I looked at the Creed Register for Anerley School (North Surrey District School) but it doesn't start till 1874 so no Robert there.

Then I looked through an admissions register 1850-1886 which is indexed. (X100/068)

There are 3 Moore children all entered together but I don't know if this is the right family. Maybe you can try to find them on the 1861 census.

Names: Moore Thomas, Harriet, Robert
Age: 1855, 1856, 1859
Union or Parish: Wandsworth
Date of Admission: 1863 Oct 7th for Thomas and Oct 23 for Harriet and Robert
Date of Discharge: Thomas and Robert Jany 28 1864, Harriet Aug 1 1864 and July 20 1866

Orphaned, Deserted, Other: All are marked as 'deserted', there are no parents details or address.

Does this help?

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« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 21:43:26 »

Hi Dawn,
            That is very interesting.Thank-you so much for all the work you've put in.I'll get my friend to cross ref it.
Isnt it sad "deserted".
I'll let you know if/what we find.Thanks again.
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